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How do you know when you've met "The One"?

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That's the question we'll
be addressing this week.

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I'm Serena Shephard.

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Thank you for making Love's Listening

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the number one romance podcast in America.

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We have Charlie on the line.

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Hello?

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I can't believe I'm actually on the show!

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I listen to you every week,

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your advice has changed my life.

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I'm honored!

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So, Charlie, do you think
you've met "The One"?

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I don't know.

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How could you tell?

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The simplest way to know

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is if that person makes you feel

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like the best version of yourself.

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What do you think, Charlie?

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Is love on the line for you?

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Serena, I'm here.

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Have you seen this?

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I go through one breakup

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and they question my entire brand?

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It's just one tabloid.

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It's lighting up socials, too!

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A complete nightmare,

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I can't believe Brandon would do this.

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We agreed we would stay
together for the Podcast Awards,

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then tastefully break the
news on each other's platforms.

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Absolutely disrespectful!

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I don't think that Brandon would...

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You think it was his sister?

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She never liked me, that monster.

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I'm America's number one authority

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on relationships, for crying out loud!

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I can't afford to go through
a public breakup right now.

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I know you're single and
you wouldn't understand

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what the heartache is like.

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Well, I've had relationships before.

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I'm hemorrhaging followers!

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You can bet that this is
gonna affect appearances

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and brand partnerships, too!

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It's only a matter of time
before I'm completely finished.

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You'll get through it.

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I'll help.

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You want to talk about the new segment?

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Yes. Take off your assistant cap

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and put on your writer's
beret and thrill me!

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So for the Spring Fever segment,

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I have a breakdown of all the symbolism

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of different types of flowers and...

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um, okay.

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Best places to get caught in the rain?

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Uh, hmm.

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How about redefining spring romance,

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as in "more than a spring fling"?

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With a feature on picking the perfect time

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for a first kiss?

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Yes. That's it.

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That's the one.

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Write that up tonight.

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We need fresh material ASAP.

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First we'll get everyone's mind
off of this breakup nonsense,

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and then we'll finally get our recognition

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at the National Podcast Awards.

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Sounds like a plan.

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Once we win, I'll be crediting you

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as co-writer and producer.

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Don't think I've forgotten.

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Thank you, Serena.

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Finally.

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Producer and writer, Abby Roig.

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Good morning!

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Love's Listening Production Offices,

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this is Abby.

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This is Jack Whitman

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with The Times Daily in New York.

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Jack Whitman?

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Yes.

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I'm calling to confirm my 10 a.m. tomorrow

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with Serena Shephard.

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We set this time several weeks ago,

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but I haven't heard any follow-up since.

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Um, I'm so sorry.

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Tomorrow, 10 a.m. you said.

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Correct, at Verde.

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Please confirm with her,
I'm set to fly out tonight

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and I don't want to waste
any more of my time on this.

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Yes, uh, I'll go confirm with her.

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Please hold.

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I'm creating content!

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What is it?

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I'm sorry,

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Jack Whitman is calling
to confirm a meeting

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tomorrow at 10 a.m.

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Jack Whitman, he's a journalist

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at The Times Daily.

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In New York?

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Is he hot?

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I guess so.

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I don't know.

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Wait, it's coming back to me.

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Yes, I definitely told you about this.

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Uh, no.

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I would have put this in
your calendar immediately.

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No, you're mistaken.

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Anyway, it doesn't matter.

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Go ahead and confirm.

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I'm so sorry to keep you waiting.

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Yes, are we confirmed or not?

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Yes, we're confirmed.

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Ms. Shephard is so looking forward...

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Hello?

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Hello?

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Who hangs up on someone?

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You totally broke my creative flow.

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I'm sorry.

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Oh, is that him?

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Mm-hm!

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Ah, he is attractive!

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Why is he wasting a face like that

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on newspaper journalism?

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Although I could ask the same of myself.

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Who would've thought this face

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would be hiding behind sound waves

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90% of the time?

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He would be the perfect arm candy

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to escort me to the Podcast Awards!

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Smart and handsome?

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Picture this, "Serena
Shephard, Single No More."

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It's perfect!

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Hm?

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Yes, it's perfect.

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Yeah.

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A relationship guru? Really?

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I am not even sold on relationships,

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and you want me to profile a guru?

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It's humiliating.

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Maybe she can help you
unpack some of that baggage

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you've been dragging
around since your breakup.

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Not likely.

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I've known you long enough
to expect healthy skepticism

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when it comes to matters of the heart,

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but I also expect you to
bring that dogged curiosity

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that makes you such a brilliant writer!

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I know, but...

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Don't let your bad experience with love

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make you think that this is beneath you.

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Love comes for us all, Jack.

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You sound like a fortune cookie.

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Embrace the challenge.

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Enjoy a few days by the beach,

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tour the studio.

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And get insight into her
production style and POV.

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I know you're less than thrilled,

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but this is a scoop.

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So go.

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Scoop!

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Oh, Aunt Abby, can I take
Bentley to the tree house?

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Sure, Lucy, just don't drop him, okay?

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Or Serena will kill me.

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She's such a cool kid.

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I know.

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I mean, almost too cool.

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I'm glad she got our genes and not Matt's.

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Aw, be nice!

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I love my brother-in-law,

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but I'm glad that she didn't inherit

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his sense of humor.

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I thank the universe every day.

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Abs, it's not really a break

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if you spend it walking Serena's dog.

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Well, I get to take a longer lunch break,

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because I'm multitasking.

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What?

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I don't know why you're
always defending her.

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You guys were peers in college.

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She was older than me.

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She treats you terribly.

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I get to pick my office chair?

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And still, after all this time,

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you're just a glorified assistant.

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Executive Assistant.

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She doesn't even credit you,

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and you write the whole dang show!

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She will credit me as soon
as we win the Podcast Awards.

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We will win.

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Good, because I need some
award-winning romance advice.

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Matt wants to buy a house,

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but I love our neighborhood,

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and there's no way that we could afford

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to buy anything in the area.

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You are a creature of habits.

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Famously.

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Plus my business is still growing.

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It's stressful.

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What was just a few arguments

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is really starting to cause a rift.

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You're going to be a very famous designer,

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and I get that part.

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What are the upsides?

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Well, more space, obviously.

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I could have an actual
office with a real drafting table.

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We would have a yard
and Lucy could get a dog.

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She can have Serena's.

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Aunt Abby, look!

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Oh, watch out, just be careful!

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Come down already!

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With change comes a lot of fear,

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but you just have to visualize
the best case scenario

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and maybe the change can bring you

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a new creative energy.

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New environment, new perspective.

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Just be honest with Matt.

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You guys are a team,

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and he's probably anxious, too.

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That's great advice, thank you.

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You should have your own podcast.

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Oh! Matt still has all
of his audio equipment

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from when he went through
that start-a-band midlife crisis,

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you should take it,
please, I'm begging you.

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No, I don't even have time
for my own lunch break.

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I want to... no, nobody
cares what I have to say.

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My life isn't aspirational.

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You're authentic.

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Glitz isn't everything.

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I mean, look at Serena.

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She has a miserable life.

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But she appears to be fabulous.

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I appear to be a mess, a single mess.

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And nobody wants advice from a single mess.

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Abby, Brad was two years ago.

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You gotta get out there.

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Don't let one unfaithful jerk
drive you to be single forever.

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Tonight when you get home,
put all of his stuff in a box.

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I don't...
-Do not pretend

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you don't still have some of Brad's stuff.

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I know you do.

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Put it in a box, reflect, and toss it.

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Fresh start.

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You deserve someone who deserves you.

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Look who's giving great advice now.

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I wish.

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It's from a podcast.

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You should know it.

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-I wrote it.
-You wrote it.

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Abby, I need you!

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Is this our new merchandise?

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Yes, just hideous.

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I wish our listeners had some taste,

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but whatever brings in the bucks, right?

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What else do you know about this reporter

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I'm meeting tomorrow?

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Jack Whitman?

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Um, well, he's been working
for The Times Daily for years,

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and he does his super insightful profiles.

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He just had this amazing
story about a researcher

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leading an Indigenous-forward effort

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in the rainforests, it's so...

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Rainforest?

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Feels like such a '90s issue.

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Well, it's been a problem
for many, many years.

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Sounds like a fixer-upper!

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The rainforest?

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No, the reporter.

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You are so silly.

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He'll need to be more now
if he's going to escort me

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to the Podcast Awards.

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Oh, well, we love a project.

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Has he sent over questions?

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No.

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But I expect him to be a bit tougher

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00:12:23,355 --> 00:12:24,924
than what you're used to.

274
00:12:24,957 --> 00:12:28,627
Hm. Not loving that for me.

275
00:12:28,661 --> 00:12:31,664
Fine, write up talking
points I can bring up,

276
00:12:31,697 --> 00:12:35,100
topical things so he can see how deep I am.

277
00:12:52,651 --> 00:12:54,954
I hate that I miss him.

278
00:12:54,987 --> 00:12:56,355
You know what, I don't miss him.

279
00:12:56,388 --> 00:12:58,991
I miss being with someone.

280
00:12:59,024 --> 00:13:00,426
Can we just skip all the hard stuff

281
00:13:00,459 --> 00:13:03,295
and go right into having
someone to watch a movie with?

282
00:13:05,331 --> 00:13:07,633
You're right.

283
00:13:07,666 --> 00:13:11,971
We can do popcorn and rom-com on our own.

284
00:13:14,473 --> 00:13:17,476
And we can have each other.

285
00:13:17,509 --> 00:13:20,212
This is it.

286
00:13:20,246 --> 00:13:22,047
This is a classic.

287
00:13:41,567 --> 00:13:44,103
It's too early.

288
00:13:51,543 --> 00:13:53,279
How bad is it?

289
00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,451
Oh, I knew it, this stupid facial!

290
00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,322
How?

291
00:14:03,355 --> 00:14:06,258
I booked Jasmine, like always.

292
00:14:06,292 --> 00:14:08,727
Did she do something different?

293
00:14:08,761 --> 00:14:12,998
Serena, what happened?

294
00:14:13,032 --> 00:14:14,466
I don't know.

295
00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:19,038
I added an oregano oil
enhancement, no big deal!

296
00:14:19,071 --> 00:14:20,773
It was for fine lines!

297
00:14:20,806 --> 00:14:23,242
Serena, you're allergic to oregano.

298
00:14:23,275 --> 00:14:24,777
I can't be responsible for knowing

299
00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:28,180
every single little one
of my own allergies!

300
00:14:28,213 --> 00:14:29,248
I'm busy!

301
00:14:29,281 --> 00:14:31,383
That's your job!

302
00:14:31,417 --> 00:14:32,594
We have to push the interview.

303
00:14:32,618 --> 00:14:34,320
No, we can't.

304
00:14:34,353 --> 00:14:36,722
It's in one hour and
he flew all the way here.

305
00:14:36,755 --> 00:14:39,725
I can't go like this.

306
00:14:39,758 --> 00:14:40,726
Reschedule!

307
00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:42,528
Charm him, bribe him, whatever,

308
00:14:42,561 --> 00:14:46,131
just don't lose the interview!

309
00:14:46,165 --> 00:14:48,267
You've reached Jack
Whitman with The Times Daily.

310
00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,302
Please leave a message
and I'll return your call

311
00:14:50,336 --> 00:14:52,271
at the earliest opportunity.

312
00:14:52,304 --> 00:14:54,039
Hi, Mr. Whitman, this is Abby.

313
00:14:54,073 --> 00:14:56,542
I'm calling on behalf of Serena Shephard.

314
00:15:05,617 --> 00:15:07,052
Oh, good morning.

315
00:15:07,086 --> 00:15:08,187
Just a soda, please.

316
00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:10,622
Thank you.

317
00:15:15,127 --> 00:15:16,195
Hi, Mr. Whitman!

318
00:15:16,228 --> 00:15:17,563
This is Abby Roig.

319
00:15:17,596 --> 00:15:19,698
I'm calling on regard of Serena Shephard.

320
00:15:21,734 --> 00:15:23,435
Thank you very much.

321
00:15:35,647 --> 00:15:37,616
Oh, thank you.

322
00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:04,710
Hi, Mr. Whitman?

323
00:16:04,743 --> 00:16:06,178
Yes.

324
00:16:06,211 --> 00:16:07,312
Do I know you?

325
00:16:07,346 --> 00:16:09,181
No, I mean, yes.

326
00:16:09,214 --> 00:16:10,549
We've spoken on the phone.

327
00:16:10,582 --> 00:16:14,553
I'm Abby Roig, Serena Shephard's assistant.

328
00:16:14,586 --> 00:16:16,221
I'm so sorry to keep you waiting,

329
00:16:16,255 --> 00:16:19,358
but I tried to call you and...

330
00:16:19,391 --> 00:16:21,493
Anyway, I'm so embarrassed,

331
00:16:21,527 --> 00:16:24,129
but we're going to have
to push the interview.

332
00:16:24,163 --> 00:16:25,573
Serena is dealing with some conflict

333
00:16:25,597 --> 00:16:27,766
that can't be avoided.

334
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,768
Miss Roig, was it?

335
00:16:29,802 --> 00:16:30,869
Oh, Abby, please.

336
00:16:30,903 --> 00:16:32,504
Abby.

337
00:16:32,538 --> 00:16:35,474
You realize that I am
based in New York City.

338
00:16:35,507 --> 00:16:36,875
Yes, of course.

339
00:16:36,909 --> 00:16:39,478
I'm so sorry about that.

340
00:16:39,511 --> 00:16:41,613
Can we reschedule for tonight?

341
00:16:41,647 --> 00:16:43,348
Sadly, no.

342
00:16:43,382 --> 00:16:45,417
Serena, she's dealing
with some personal matters,

343
00:16:45,451 --> 00:16:48,187
and it won't be resolved by tonight.

344
00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:49,755
But I'll reach out as soon as we...

345
00:16:49,788 --> 00:16:51,824
You'll reach out.

346
00:16:51,857 --> 00:16:52,758
Yeah.

347
00:16:52,791 --> 00:16:54,760
I don't have unlimited time here, okay?

348
00:16:54,793 --> 00:16:56,395
I realize that you're just an assistant,

349
00:16:56,428 --> 00:16:58,230
but if Serena wants this interview,

350
00:16:58,263 --> 00:17:00,265
please have her call me ASAP.

351
00:17:00,299 --> 00:17:02,868
Maybe I will still be in town.

352
00:17:02,901 --> 00:17:06,905
The level of unprofessionalism here.

353
00:17:06,939 --> 00:17:09,908
Well, if you realize
that I'm just an assistant,

354
00:17:09,942 --> 00:17:12,578
maybe you can appreciate
that I'm just a messenger.

355
00:17:12,611 --> 00:17:13,846
Your rudeness is uncalled for.

356
00:17:13,879 --> 00:17:15,481
My rudeness?

357
00:17:15,514 --> 00:17:17,349
I fly halfway across the country

358
00:17:17,382 --> 00:17:18,851
on a delayed, overbooked flight

359
00:17:18,884 --> 00:17:20,652
to interview your boss!

360
00:17:20,686 --> 00:17:23,455
Then she no-shows without notice!

361
00:17:23,489 --> 00:17:25,791
Then she sends you 45 minutes late.

362
00:17:25,824 --> 00:17:27,526
But I'm the rude one. Got it.

363
00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:29,661
I tried to call you, but you didn't answer.

364
00:17:29,695 --> 00:17:31,196
How is that professional?

365
00:17:31,230 --> 00:17:34,333
Well, I always silence
my phone for interviews,

366
00:17:34,366 --> 00:17:37,236
even if it is just for silly podcast hosts.

367
00:17:37,269 --> 00:17:39,605
Well, I ran here.

368
00:17:39,638 --> 00:17:41,240
Yes, I care so much about my job

369
00:17:41,273 --> 00:17:42,708
that I ran all the way here

370
00:17:42,741 --> 00:17:45,878
so you wouldn't be
waiting in this humidity.

371
00:17:45,911 --> 00:17:47,980
I know that you're very important,

372
00:17:48,013 --> 00:17:49,448
but so are we.

373
00:17:49,481 --> 00:17:53,285
Or so is she, she's very important.

374
00:17:53,318 --> 00:17:55,854
And clearly podcasts are beneath you,

375
00:17:55,888 --> 00:17:57,932
but it was The Times Daily
that wanted this interview,

376
00:17:57,956 --> 00:17:59,725
not Love's Listening, so yes,

377
00:17:59,758 --> 00:18:03,762
have a nice flight back!

378
00:18:03,795 --> 00:18:05,898
Wow.

379
00:18:11,770 --> 00:18:14,740
So, how tall is he in person?

380
00:18:14,773 --> 00:18:16,351
Wondering what height heels I should wear

381
00:18:16,375 --> 00:18:17,576
when the redness goes down.

382
00:18:17,609 --> 00:18:20,312
When are we rescheduled to?

383
00:18:20,345 --> 00:18:22,814
We're not.

384
00:18:22,848 --> 00:18:24,983
He was really upset that you weren't there,

385
00:18:25,017 --> 00:18:27,286
and he seems like he
doesn't even want to be here,

386
00:18:27,319 --> 00:18:31,957
so I kind of played it sort of horrible.

387
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:33,559
What does that mean?

388
00:18:33,592 --> 00:18:35,794
You know I hate sports.

389
00:18:35,827 --> 00:18:38,797
I told him that you didn't need the press,

390
00:18:38,830 --> 00:18:41,633
that he was very lucky
to be doing the profile.

391
00:18:41,667 --> 00:18:43,368
You what?

392
00:18:43,402 --> 00:18:44,970
Well, he was just so rude and pompous.

393
00:18:45,003 --> 00:18:48,307
We do need this coverage, Abby!

394
00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:50,008
We need the promotion before the Awards,

395
00:18:50,042 --> 00:18:54,379
and I need to put this breakup
gossip to rest immediately!

396
00:18:54,413 --> 00:18:56,715
How did you mess this up? Fix it!

397
00:18:56,748 --> 00:18:58,760
Well, I don't think he wants
to talk to me ever again,

398
00:18:58,784 --> 00:19:00,052
so why don't you call him?

399
00:19:00,085 --> 00:19:03,422
Oh, and how would that look?

400
00:19:03,455 --> 00:19:05,490
No, this is on you.

401
00:19:05,524 --> 00:19:07,025
Take one of my gift baskets,

402
00:19:07,059 --> 00:19:08,994
march over to wherever he's staying,

403
00:19:09,027 --> 00:19:10,796
and apologize!

404
00:19:10,829 --> 00:19:12,030
Keep him occupied.

405
00:19:12,064 --> 00:19:15,534
Whatever it takes, your job depends on it.

406
00:19:15,567 --> 00:19:17,903
Okay, I'm really sorry.

407
00:19:17,936 --> 00:19:20,439
And let me remind you
that you're my assistant

408
00:19:20,472 --> 00:19:23,775
and a direct reflection of my brand.

409
00:19:23,809 --> 00:19:25,811
You do not get to take
these kinds of liberties

410
00:19:25,844 --> 00:19:28,880
with communication.

411
00:19:28,914 --> 00:19:30,015
And where are the scripts

412
00:19:30,048 --> 00:19:31,617
for the spring segments, by the way?

413
00:19:31,650 --> 00:19:33,485
I've just been so distracted!

414
00:19:33,518 --> 00:19:35,988
I'm hearing a lot of excuses, Abby!

415
00:19:36,021 --> 00:19:38,423
Very disappointing.

416
00:19:38,457 --> 00:19:40,993
You can't be serious.

417
00:19:41,026 --> 00:19:43,996
I get that you're frustrated,
but what I'm also hearing

418
00:19:44,029 --> 00:19:46,832
is that you were
condescending and impatient.

419
00:19:46,865 --> 00:19:48,767
Has it been so long since
you were an assistant

420
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,402
that you've forgotten what it's like?

421
00:19:50,435 --> 00:19:54,072
I took it out on the wrong person, okay?

422
00:19:54,106 --> 00:19:55,841
Sure sounds like it.

423
00:19:55,874 --> 00:19:57,442
I know you don't want to be there,

424
00:19:57,476 --> 00:19:58,977
but you have a job to do,

425
00:19:59,011 --> 00:20:00,679
so don't step foot back in the city

426
00:20:00,712 --> 00:20:02,414
without a story.

427
00:20:02,447 --> 00:20:04,383
Look, I'll fix it, okay?

428
00:20:04,416 --> 00:20:07,419
I gotta go.

429
00:20:07,452 --> 00:20:09,454
Uh, special delivery?

430
00:20:09,488 --> 00:20:10,455
Mr. Whitman...

431
00:20:10,489 --> 00:20:11,890
Jack, please.

432
00:20:11,923 --> 00:20:13,725
Jack.

433
00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:16,895
I thought you'd be in a hotel.

434
00:20:16,928 --> 00:20:18,096
So did I.

435
00:20:18,130 --> 00:20:20,932
Unfortunately, they lost my reservation,

436
00:20:20,966 --> 00:20:22,701
so I had to improvise.

437
00:20:22,734 --> 00:20:23,769
I'm so sorry.

438
00:20:23,802 --> 00:20:26,571
It's okay. Vacation rental.

439
00:20:26,605 --> 00:20:30,042
Listen, I wanted to apologize
on behalf of Love's Listening.

440
00:20:30,075 --> 00:20:33,645
So we thought that
you'd maybe enjoy some...

441
00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:35,781
face masks.

442
00:20:35,814 --> 00:20:38,483
And bath bombs.

443
00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:40,786
I mean, who doesn't love bath bombs, right?

444
00:20:40,819 --> 00:20:42,554
Pamper yourself.

445
00:20:42,587 --> 00:20:44,856
And that's nice, some eyelash curler.

446
00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:46,425
Do you grow your lashes?

447
00:20:46,458 --> 00:20:48,460
Or maybe for your wife or your girlfriend?

448
00:20:48,493 --> 00:20:51,863
You know, uh, no girlfriend, no wife,

449
00:20:51,897 --> 00:20:55,100
and I think that my eyelashes
are naturally curly enough,

450
00:20:55,133 --> 00:20:58,003
don't you?

451
00:20:58,036 --> 00:21:01,139
I really do appreciate the gesture.

452
00:21:01,173 --> 00:21:03,608
I need to apologize too, okay?

453
00:21:03,642 --> 00:21:06,545
I've been an assistant and it's tough,

454
00:21:06,578 --> 00:21:08,714
and I had a bad start to this trip

455
00:21:08,747 --> 00:21:11,717
and I unfairly took that out on you.

456
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:14,686
I'd be happy to reschedule
if there is a time this week

457
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,789
that works better for
Serena, and for you, of course.

458
00:21:17,823 --> 00:21:18,957
Oh.

459
00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:20,892
That would be great.

460
00:21:20,926 --> 00:21:24,196
We definitely want to rebook ASAP.

461
00:21:24,229 --> 00:21:26,074
Serena is dealing with
some personal stuff right now,

462
00:21:26,098 --> 00:21:29,634
but how well do you know the show?

463
00:21:29,668 --> 00:21:32,037
Honestly, I've listened to a few episodes,

464
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:33,672
but I lack a familiarity

465
00:21:33,705 --> 00:21:35,874
with the whole production process.

466
00:21:35,907 --> 00:21:38,777
I can definitely help you with that.

467
00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:41,947
So, there is surprisingly
little information

468
00:21:41,980 --> 00:21:44,015
about Serena's background online.

469
00:21:44,049 --> 00:21:46,485
That feels pretty intentional.

470
00:21:46,518 --> 00:21:48,954
Is there a question in the statement?

471
00:21:48,987 --> 00:21:51,089
Sure. Where is she from?

472
00:21:51,123 --> 00:21:52,858
Let's start there.

473
00:21:52,891 --> 00:21:55,227
Well, she's from Delaware originally

474
00:21:55,260 --> 00:21:57,195
and she moved here for college,

475
00:21:57,229 --> 00:21:59,931
and she fell in love with the city.

476
00:21:59,965 --> 00:22:02,701
So did I, actually,

477
00:22:02,734 --> 00:22:06,972
I mean, it's so easy to
fall in love with, obviously.

478
00:22:07,005 --> 00:22:07,973
Eh.

479
00:22:08,006 --> 00:22:10,175
What, "eh"?

480
00:22:10,208 --> 00:22:12,110
Oh, of course!

481
00:22:12,144 --> 00:22:13,979
You're one of those New Yorkers

482
00:22:14,012 --> 00:22:15,914
who can't see potential anywhere else.

483
00:22:15,947 --> 00:22:20,552
Look, I mean, New York
is just so alive, so creative,

484
00:22:20,585 --> 00:22:22,988
so... a third thing.

485
00:22:23,021 --> 00:22:24,656
Writer, huh?

486
00:22:27,125 --> 00:22:28,660
I was born and raised in Cuba,

487
00:22:28,693 --> 00:22:31,196
but I've been living here
for the past 10 years.

488
00:22:31,229 --> 00:22:33,632
The city has changed,
sometimes not for the better,

489
00:22:33,665 --> 00:22:35,934
but it has so much history,

490
00:22:35,967 --> 00:22:40,672
so much creative inspiration.

491
00:22:40,705 --> 00:22:44,976
So how does Serena separate the podcast

492
00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:46,611
from her personal life?

493
00:22:46,645 --> 00:22:47,979
In what way?

494
00:22:48,013 --> 00:22:49,815
Well, I've listened to a couple episodes,

495
00:22:49,848 --> 00:22:51,850
as I've told you.

496
00:22:51,883 --> 00:22:54,119
And now what do you think so far?

497
00:22:54,152 --> 00:22:58,190
Well, I mean, the advice
actually isn't that bad.

498
00:22:58,223 --> 00:23:00,101
The writing is much better
than I thought it would be

499
00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:01,860
and there's an eloquence to it

500
00:23:01,893 --> 00:23:04,062
that I wasn't anticipating.

501
00:23:04,095 --> 00:23:06,998
Thank you for the high praise.

502
00:23:07,032 --> 00:23:08,600
I mean, I'm just the assistant,

503
00:23:08,633 --> 00:23:12,070
but it's good to hear
on behalf of the show.

504
00:23:12,103 --> 00:23:14,539
Look, full disclosure,

505
00:23:14,573 --> 00:23:16,208
I don't think people can actually change

506
00:23:16,241 --> 00:23:18,210
with romantic advice.

507
00:23:18,243 --> 00:23:19,744
The idea is nice.

508
00:23:19,778 --> 00:23:21,046
Wow.

509
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,983
From compliments to condescension.

510
00:23:25,016 --> 00:23:27,285
I like the compliment part more.

511
00:23:33,291 --> 00:23:34,793
Hi, Carlos!

512
00:23:34,826 --> 00:23:36,795
Hey! Abby!

513
00:23:36,828 --> 00:23:39,664
Whoa, look at you, you got a friend!

514
00:23:39,698 --> 00:23:41,833
I have friends.

515
00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:44,135
Can I grab one of these
and this as well, please?

516
00:23:44,169 --> 00:23:45,270
Sí, Señor.

517
00:23:45,303 --> 00:23:46,571
How much?

518
00:23:46,605 --> 00:23:48,206
Ten dollars.

519
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,975
Look, I'm not trying to be condescending,

520
00:23:50,008 --> 00:23:52,143
it's not Serena's fault, but at their core,

521
00:23:52,177 --> 00:23:53,654
people just don't change, they can't.

522
00:23:53,678 --> 00:23:54,746
It's a fact.

523
00:23:54,779 --> 00:23:56,081
Thank you.

524
00:23:56,114 --> 00:23:57,291
Well, I just don't agree with you.

525
00:23:57,315 --> 00:23:58,783
I just can't.

526
00:23:58,817 --> 00:24:00,252
In what sense?

527
00:24:00,285 --> 00:24:04,689
Well, I don't think people
are set in those ways.

528
00:24:04,723 --> 00:24:07,826
People can change or grow
or even become someone

529
00:24:07,859 --> 00:24:10,328
they didn't even expect to be.

530
00:24:10,362 --> 00:24:12,063
Wow.

531
00:24:12,097 --> 00:24:13,374
Did Serena force you to say that

532
00:24:13,398 --> 00:24:15,133
or are you actually this naive?

533
00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:16,801
No one forces me to say anything,

534
00:24:16,835 --> 00:24:18,703
and I'm not naive.

535
00:24:18,737 --> 00:24:20,605
Some people don't want to change,

536
00:24:20,639 --> 00:24:22,207
so they don't,

537
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,075
but for those who want to, you know,

538
00:24:24,109 --> 00:24:26,244
I happen to believe in romance.

539
00:24:26,278 --> 00:24:27,345
Is that so bad?

540
00:24:27,379 --> 00:24:30,348
No, it's just not realistic.

541
00:24:30,382 --> 00:24:33,084
Realistic or cynical?

542
00:24:33,118 --> 00:24:34,386
I give up.

543
00:24:34,419 --> 00:24:37,289
Heck, I've been called a cynic before.

544
00:24:40,025 --> 00:24:42,327
Well, I have to go for my next meeting.

545
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:46,698
Okay, well, goodbye in case
we don't see each other again.

546
00:24:46,731 --> 00:24:48,900
What do you mean we
won't see each other again?

547
00:24:48,934 --> 00:24:50,802
The paper is not just going to pay for me

548
00:24:50,835 --> 00:24:52,837
to hang out, you know.

549
00:24:52,871 --> 00:24:55,073
Thank you for the walk, it was lovely,

550
00:24:55,106 --> 00:24:57,809
but I'm going to need
some more substantial info

551
00:24:57,842 --> 00:24:59,277
regarding Serena's creative process

552
00:24:59,311 --> 00:25:01,947
to justify my staying in town.

553
00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:04,049
How about I take you to the places

554
00:25:04,082 --> 00:25:06,051
where Serena gets her inspiration?

555
00:25:06,084 --> 00:25:08,086
The city totally shapes her point of view

556
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,792
and, you know, we can
schedule a tour visit of the studio?

557
00:25:13,825 --> 00:25:15,794
Just until Serena's available herself,

558
00:25:15,827 --> 00:25:18,763
which she will be very soon.

559
00:25:18,797 --> 00:25:19,965
I can do tomorrow morning.

560
00:25:19,998 --> 00:25:21,232
Does that work for you?

561
00:25:24,002 --> 00:25:26,104
Sure, that all sounds good.

562
00:25:26,137 --> 00:25:29,741
Just email me the details
and I'll see you in the morning.

563
00:25:36,448 --> 00:25:38,850
I know, Audrey,

564
00:25:38,883 --> 00:25:41,853
but I have a non-disclosure
agreement with Serena.

565
00:25:41,886 --> 00:25:44,122
It's not like I can tell Jack, "Hey!

566
00:25:44,155 --> 00:25:45,423
Her inspirational spots

567
00:25:45,457 --> 00:25:47,092
are actually my inspirational spots

568
00:25:47,125 --> 00:25:50,228
because I write everything."

569
00:25:50,261 --> 00:25:53,031
Plus now I'm so afraid of messing up

570
00:25:53,064 --> 00:25:54,742
that I can't even write the stupid scripts

571
00:25:54,766 --> 00:25:56,301
I'm supposed to write.

572
00:25:58,336 --> 00:26:00,205
Ugh.

573
00:26:00,238 --> 00:26:02,774
The internet says that your brown leaves

574
00:26:02,807 --> 00:26:06,845
might mean that you're a little bit drafty.

575
00:26:06,878 --> 00:26:11,049
No one likes a high
maintenance diva, Audrey.

576
00:26:11,082 --> 00:26:14,019
We'll kick off from here.

577
00:26:14,052 --> 00:26:15,020
No.

578
00:26:15,053 --> 00:26:16,221
Mm-hm! Yes.

579
00:26:16,254 --> 00:26:18,890
You can stretch for a minute if you want.

580
00:26:18,923 --> 00:26:20,792
I'm fine, thank you.

581
00:26:20,825 --> 00:26:22,293
I take spin classes at my gym,

582
00:26:22,327 --> 00:26:24,462
so fully prepared.

583
00:26:24,496 --> 00:26:26,765
Don't say I didn't warn you.

584
00:26:26,798 --> 00:26:28,266
I've been fully warned.

585
00:26:30,402 --> 00:26:31,403
Okay, let's go.

586
00:26:31,436 --> 00:26:33,204
Lead the way.

587
00:26:33,238 --> 00:26:34,372
We're here.

588
00:26:34,406 --> 00:26:38,176
Oh, thank God.

589
00:26:41,146 --> 00:26:44,182
This is why you need subways.

590
00:26:44,215 --> 00:26:45,984
We have Metrorail

591
00:26:46,017 --> 00:26:48,219
and free trolleys, do you have trolleys?

592
00:26:48,253 --> 00:26:50,155
No, we don't have trolleys.

593
00:26:50,188 --> 00:26:53,458
Trolleys are just unfinished buses.

594
00:26:53,491 --> 00:26:56,027
And subways are for people

595
00:26:56,061 --> 00:26:58,463
who prefer to travel in the dark.

596
00:26:58,496 --> 00:27:00,398
Oh, I sense a metaphor there,

597
00:27:00,432 --> 00:27:03,301
that's pretty deep.

598
00:27:03,334 --> 00:27:06,771
So, on an advice show,

599
00:27:06,805 --> 00:27:09,074
what kind of people call in for love advice

600
00:27:09,107 --> 00:27:11,543
from a total stranger?

601
00:27:11,576 --> 00:27:14,412
Regular callers, they
feel like they know Serena,

602
00:27:14,446 --> 00:27:16,548
so she's not a stranger to them.

603
00:27:16,581 --> 00:27:18,283
Okay, that makes sense,

604
00:27:18,316 --> 00:27:21,820
but don't you think anyone can give advice?

605
00:27:21,853 --> 00:27:22,654
Why trust Serena?

606
00:27:22,687 --> 00:27:25,056
What makes her advice so special?

607
00:27:25,090 --> 00:27:29,894
You have to be really
observant to give romantic advice,

608
00:27:29,928 --> 00:27:31,796
and an excellent listener.

609
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:35,033
To read between the lines,

610
00:27:35,066 --> 00:27:39,070
and that's one of the
hallmarks of Love's Listening.

611
00:27:39,104 --> 00:27:42,941
Okay, well, show me what you mean.

612
00:27:42,974 --> 00:27:45,210
Um, okay.

613
00:27:45,243 --> 00:27:49,981
I'm not Serena, but I can give it a try.

614
00:27:50,014 --> 00:27:53,885
Um... there, that couple.

615
00:27:53,918 --> 00:27:56,287
They weren't friends
before they started dating,

616
00:27:56,321 --> 00:28:00,458
so I would advise them
to go on a trip together

617
00:28:00,492 --> 00:28:05,396
or a theme park, you know, to
have some external stressors

618
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:07,565
to see if they can handle it.

619
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,402
If they can, they will be golden.

620
00:28:11,436 --> 00:28:14,139
Interesting.

621
00:28:14,172 --> 00:28:17,375
You try.

622
00:28:17,408 --> 00:28:18,510
Me?

623
00:28:18,543 --> 00:28:19,377
Yes.

624
00:28:19,410 --> 00:28:22,313
You... you say that anyone can give advice.

625
00:28:22,347 --> 00:28:24,916
That includes you, right?

626
00:28:24,949 --> 00:28:27,418
Using my own words against me, I see.

627
00:28:27,452 --> 00:28:29,988
Okay, um...

628
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:36,895
All right, they're together

629
00:28:36,928 --> 00:28:41,966
and they have a baby together,

630
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,471
and they don't sleep because of the kid.

631
00:28:49,340 --> 00:28:52,343
That's the worst reading I ever heard.

632
00:28:52,377 --> 00:28:54,179
Clearly romance is not my forte,

633
00:28:54,212 --> 00:28:55,513
surprise, surprise.

634
00:28:55,547 --> 00:28:57,348
I'm more of a hard facts kind of guy,

635
00:28:57,382 --> 00:28:59,517
and factually speaking,
we'll never actually know

636
00:28:59,551 --> 00:29:00,952
how accurate your reading was,

637
00:29:00,985 --> 00:29:04,155
because we're just guessing.

638
00:29:04,189 --> 00:29:06,257
How about I read you?

639
00:29:06,291 --> 00:29:09,060
And you tell me if I'm right, factually.

640
00:29:09,093 --> 00:29:12,030
Okay, shoot.

641
00:29:12,063 --> 00:29:14,599
Let's see, um,

642
00:29:14,632 --> 00:29:17,302
you're very critical of this kind of stuff

643
00:29:17,335 --> 00:29:22,507
because you got your heart broken.

644
00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:25,043
We all have.

645
00:29:25,076 --> 00:29:27,946
Very badly.

646
00:29:27,979 --> 00:29:30,548
What makes you say that?

647
00:29:30,582 --> 00:29:34,519
Just the way... you know what?

648
00:29:34,552 --> 00:29:36,287
Doesn't matter.

649
00:29:36,321 --> 00:29:39,490
It takes one to know one, I guess.

650
00:29:42,527 --> 00:29:44,929
Um, we should go to the next place.

651
00:29:44,963 --> 00:29:46,197
Yeah, uh...

652
00:29:47,432 --> 00:29:48,976
Is it okay that we leave our bikes here?

653
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,401
Oh, this is not New York.

654
00:29:50,435 --> 00:29:51,569
Okay.

655
00:29:54,205 --> 00:29:55,673
You write?

656
00:29:55,707 --> 00:29:59,477
I... I've written casually for years.

657
00:29:59,510 --> 00:30:02,013
I'm trying to make bigger strides,

658
00:30:02,046 --> 00:30:05,550
but I'm not in the right place right now.

659
00:30:05,583 --> 00:30:07,085
It's so frustrating.

660
00:30:07,118 --> 00:30:09,487
I feel like I'm not where I should be.

661
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,522
What do you mean where you should be?

662
00:30:13,124 --> 00:30:14,125
I don't know.

663
00:30:14,158 --> 00:30:16,995
I feel like if I'd done
everything differently,

664
00:30:17,028 --> 00:30:18,997
I'd be further along the way now,

665
00:30:19,030 --> 00:30:22,133
but I can't and I'm stuck in my head.

666
00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:24,269
I don't know.

667
00:30:26,504 --> 00:30:28,640
Sounds like an excuse.

668
00:30:28,673 --> 00:30:34,312
Look, can I give you
some unsolicited advice?

669
00:30:34,345 --> 00:30:35,747
Depends.

670
00:30:35,780 --> 00:30:38,116
Are you going to be mean about it?

671
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:41,552
Man, I really made a bad
first impression, didn't I?

672
00:30:44,455 --> 00:30:46,557
Okay.

673
00:30:46,591 --> 00:30:49,360
I welcome any advice.

674
00:30:49,394 --> 00:30:51,329
I've been there.

675
00:30:51,362 --> 00:30:53,765
That feeling like you've
missed opportunities,

676
00:30:53,798 --> 00:30:56,601
wondering about other
roads, other timelines.

677
00:30:56,634 --> 00:31:02,173
Whether it was with
writing or... relationships.

678
00:31:02,206 --> 00:31:04,275
Anyways, some of the best advice

679
00:31:04,309 --> 00:31:08,513
I ever got was to bloom
where I was planted, you know?

680
00:31:08,546 --> 00:31:13,217
It doesn't help to linger on
what's out of your control.

681
00:31:13,251 --> 00:31:16,321
You've just gotta trust
that you're where you are

682
00:31:16,354 --> 00:31:18,289
right now for a reason.

683
00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:21,292
That's great advice.

684
00:31:21,326 --> 00:31:23,494
Are you becoming an optimist now?

685
00:31:23,528 --> 00:31:24,629
Don't push it.

686
00:31:24,662 --> 00:31:26,064
That's a shame.

687
00:31:26,097 --> 00:31:28,800
The glimmer of optimism really suited you.

688
00:31:30,768 --> 00:31:33,304
You don't really think I'm mean, do you?

689
00:31:33,338 --> 00:31:34,572
Not right now.

690
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,774
That's good.

691
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:40,712
Abby, it's me.

692
00:31:40,745 --> 00:31:42,380
Pick up!

693
00:31:42,413 --> 00:31:43,748
Hi, this is Abby.

694
00:31:43,781 --> 00:31:44,781
Leave a message.

695
00:31:50,421 --> 00:31:52,824
How's it going with the nerd?

696
00:31:52,857 --> 00:31:54,702
You know, I was thinking,
maybe you could tell him

697
00:31:54,726 --> 00:31:57,729
I was unavailable
because I was volunteering

698
00:31:57,762 --> 00:31:59,397
at a hospital.

699
00:31:59,430 --> 00:32:02,166
Puppy shelter? Puppy hospital.

700
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,669
I don't know, use whatever is saddest.

701
00:32:04,702 --> 00:32:06,137
Call me back... ooh!

702
00:32:14,445 --> 00:32:15,780
Ah.

703
00:32:15,813 --> 00:32:17,482
We are here.

704
00:32:21,719 --> 00:32:22,719
Wow.

705
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:27,458
A little bit more scenic
than the Hudson, huh?

706
00:32:27,492 --> 00:32:28,726
It's like a postcard.

707
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,595
Mm-hm.

708
00:32:30,628 --> 00:32:33,531
I love to come here when
I feel like my work is stale.

709
00:32:34,699 --> 00:32:36,434
And I walk on the sand,

710
00:32:36,467 --> 00:32:40,371
and I like to think that if you
change your environment,

711
00:32:40,405 --> 00:32:42,640
you can change your perspective.

712
00:32:42,673 --> 00:32:46,444
Well, it really is beautiful here.

713
00:32:46,477 --> 00:32:47,445
Yeah.

714
00:32:47,478 --> 00:32:48,613
Oh!

715
00:32:48,646 --> 00:32:49,480
Are you okay?

716
00:32:49,514 --> 00:32:51,682
Ah, yeah, I think I got a Charley horse.

717
00:32:51,716 --> 00:32:54,585
Okay, okay, sorry, lean on me, come on.

718
00:32:54,619 --> 00:32:56,154
No, I'm fine, I'm fine.

719
00:32:56,187 --> 00:32:58,356
-No, you're not.
-Okay, all right.

720
00:32:58,389 --> 00:33:02,260
I told you to stretch, but
you didn't want to do it.

721
00:33:02,293 --> 00:33:03,428
Is it exhausting?

722
00:33:03,461 --> 00:33:04,595
What?

723
00:33:04,629 --> 00:33:05,830
Always being right?

724
00:33:05,863 --> 00:33:08,466
Yes, but I can manage.

725
00:33:09,567 --> 00:33:12,770
Well, this is the end of our tour,

726
00:33:12,804 --> 00:33:14,705
and I'm hoping that, you know,

727
00:33:14,739 --> 00:33:17,809
you get the feeling of how Serena...

728
00:33:17,842 --> 00:33:20,178
Our creative process.

729
00:33:20,211 --> 00:33:22,280
Yeah. Hm.

730
00:33:22,313 --> 00:33:23,915
You want me to call you a cab?

731
00:33:23,948 --> 00:33:26,250
No, I'm okay actually.

732
00:33:26,284 --> 00:33:28,820
Um, I'm actually pretty famished.

733
00:33:30,221 --> 00:33:31,089
Do you want to grab dinner?

734
00:33:31,122 --> 00:33:32,633
My treat if you can think of any place

735
00:33:32,657 --> 00:33:34,258
that we can hobble to.

736
00:33:36,727 --> 00:33:39,397
This is one of Serena's
favorite spots in the city.

737
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:41,432
Mm, well, from what I see on the menu,

738
00:33:41,466 --> 00:33:42,567
she's got good taste.

739
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,501
Thanks!

740
00:33:43,534 --> 00:33:46,237
Um, I'll let her know that you say so.

741
00:33:46,270 --> 00:33:48,506
What are you getting?

742
00:33:48,539 --> 00:33:50,842
You know what, I'm gonna follow your lead.

743
00:33:50,875 --> 00:33:52,210
All right.

744
00:33:58,382 --> 00:34:02,753
Hold my hand till the courage sticks

745
00:34:02,787 --> 00:34:07,792
Shine the light till the darkness lifts

746
00:34:16,467 --> 00:34:21,739
Hold me up so I don't look weak

747
00:34:21,772 --> 00:34:24,375
I... I wanted to ask you something,

748
00:34:24,408 --> 00:34:26,878
but I don't want it to come out wrong.

749
00:34:26,911 --> 00:34:28,079
Well, go for it. I mean,

750
00:34:28,112 --> 00:34:31,549
I feel like we know each
other pretty well at this point.

751
00:34:31,582 --> 00:34:36,487
Okay, I... I had a feeling that
you didn't want to be here.

752
00:34:36,521 --> 00:34:38,589
Are you being punished or something?

753
00:34:38,623 --> 00:34:39,757
Punished, no.

754
00:34:39,790 --> 00:34:42,793
Um, I was just being a snob.

755
00:34:42,827 --> 00:34:44,328
-Mm-hm.
-Yep.

756
00:34:44,362 --> 00:34:47,298
And Serena has a massive platform.

757
00:34:47,331 --> 00:34:49,767
The Times Daily is trying
to expand its readership,

758
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,870
and I'm the profile guy, so...

759
00:34:52,904 --> 00:34:54,405
That makes sense.

760
00:34:54,438 --> 00:34:56,574
And how do you feel now?

761
00:34:56,607 --> 00:34:57,842
Pretty full.

762
00:34:57,875 --> 00:34:59,744
You know what I mean.

763
00:34:59,777 --> 00:35:03,514
Well, truthfully, I
wasn't keen on the idea.

764
00:35:03,548 --> 00:35:05,550
I mean, I like to be in my comfort zone.

765
00:35:05,583 --> 00:35:08,853
And I have a little bit of an aversion

766
00:35:08,886 --> 00:35:12,690
to anything touting romantic expertise.

767
00:35:12,723 --> 00:35:18,696
But you were spot-on
earlier about relationship stuff.

768
00:35:18,729 --> 00:35:20,331
I don't want you to discuss this

769
00:35:20,364 --> 00:35:21,966
if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

770
00:35:21,999 --> 00:35:25,636
No, it's fine, really.

771
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:28,539
Let's see, how to make it succinct.

772
00:35:28,573 --> 00:35:30,274
Um...

773
00:35:30,308 --> 00:35:31,943
The headline would read:

774
00:35:31,976 --> 00:35:34,845
"Woman breaks fiancé's heart

775
00:35:34,879 --> 00:35:36,847
two months before their wedding."

776
00:35:36,881 --> 00:35:39,517
Oh my God, I'm so sorry about that.

777
00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:42,954
Um, was she looking for herself?

778
00:35:42,987 --> 00:35:44,088
I thought so.

779
00:35:44,121 --> 00:35:47,758
But she had found someone
else while we were dating.

780
00:35:47,792 --> 00:35:50,795
Now, honesty is the most important part

781
00:35:50,828 --> 00:35:53,397
of a relationship for me by far.

782
00:35:53,431 --> 00:35:55,766
I mean, it would hurt
too much to learn, again,

783
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,503
that someone wasn't
who they said they were.

784
00:35:59,537 --> 00:36:01,505
I understand that.

785
00:36:01,539 --> 00:36:03,074
I'm so sorry.

786
00:36:04,108 --> 00:36:05,309
For what?

787
00:36:05,343 --> 00:36:08,079
For everything that happened.

788
00:36:08,112 --> 00:36:09,213
Well, at this point,

789
00:36:09,247 --> 00:36:13,551
I just want to skip all of
the complicated dating stuff

790
00:36:13,584 --> 00:36:15,762
and get right to the point
where I get to be with someone

791
00:36:15,786 --> 00:36:18,389
that I can hang out and watch movies with.

792
00:36:20,024 --> 00:36:21,092
That's the dream.

793
00:36:21,125 --> 00:36:24,862
Well, maybe if I keep
listening to Love's Listening,

794
00:36:24,895 --> 00:36:27,498
I can collect enough
tips so that I can do that.

795
00:36:27,531 --> 00:36:29,967
Serena is very charming.

796
00:36:30,001 --> 00:36:33,671
Maybe, but I don't think that's what it is.

797
00:36:33,704 --> 00:36:38,109
You know, there's real
heart to the content.

798
00:36:38,142 --> 00:36:41,879
I'm looking forward to seeing
how Serena puts it all together.

799
00:36:41,912 --> 00:36:43,914
Me too.

800
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,588
No, I didn't say that though.

801
00:36:50,621 --> 00:36:52,990
No, I just... take...

802
00:36:53,024 --> 00:36:54,759
No, it... no!

803
00:36:54,792 --> 00:36:59,363
No, it's... it's not the
last opportunity, Matt.

804
00:36:59,397 --> 00:37:03,134
Oh, well, I'm sorry you feel that way.

805
00:37:03,167 --> 00:37:05,436
Hey, Abs just walked in.

806
00:37:05,469 --> 00:37:08,105
I'm gonna crash here tonight, cool?

807
00:37:08,139 --> 00:37:09,874
Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow.

808
00:37:09,907 --> 00:37:10,907
Bye.

809
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:14,745
"I'm sorry you feel that way"?

810
00:37:14,779 --> 00:37:17,481
You know that's not an apology.

811
00:37:17,515 --> 00:37:18,949
Can you just be sister Abby

812
00:37:18,983 --> 00:37:22,086
and not romance podcast Abby for a bit?

813
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:23,621
Absolutely.

814
00:37:23,654 --> 00:37:25,122
What's going on?

815
00:37:30,161 --> 00:37:32,930
Matt wanted to put in
an offer for the house,

816
00:37:32,963 --> 00:37:34,565
and I got a little freaked out,

817
00:37:34,598 --> 00:37:39,603
so I told him to wait just
'cause I needed more time.

818
00:37:39,637 --> 00:37:41,539
Did you like the house?

819
00:37:41,572 --> 00:37:43,908
I thought you were ready to make that move?

820
00:37:43,941 --> 00:37:45,643
That's what Matt said.

821
00:37:45,676 --> 00:37:47,545
I mean, I love the house.

822
00:37:47,578 --> 00:37:49,680
I just...

823
00:37:49,714 --> 00:37:53,050
I needed to take a breath, you know?

824
00:37:53,084 --> 00:37:56,487
Anyways, while we were
having that argument,

825
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,690
the seller accepted another offer.

826
00:37:59,724 --> 00:38:02,426
Matt is pretty frustrated
with me right now.

827
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:04,929
I'm so sorry.

828
00:38:04,962 --> 00:38:07,164
There will be other houses, you know?

829
00:38:07,198 --> 00:38:08,966
I know.

830
00:38:08,999 --> 00:38:11,469
This place was just really great.

831
00:38:11,502 --> 00:38:12,970
And you know Miami real estate.

832
00:38:13,003 --> 00:38:15,005
I've heard.

833
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,742
It was just happening so quickly.

834
00:38:17,775 --> 00:38:19,577
I don't know, I...

835
00:38:19,610 --> 00:38:22,113
We'll be fine, but...

836
00:38:22,146 --> 00:38:24,882
Lucy's staying at a friend's house tonight.

837
00:38:24,915 --> 00:38:28,753
Is it cool if I just crash
here just for some space?

838
00:38:28,786 --> 00:38:30,054
Please.

839
00:38:30,087 --> 00:38:31,622
I'm so glad that you're gonna be here

840
00:38:31,655 --> 00:38:33,124
with me tonight.

841
00:38:33,157 --> 00:38:34,558
Hot chocolate?

842
00:38:34,592 --> 00:38:35,593
You know it.

843
00:38:35,626 --> 00:38:36,961
Okay, let's go.

844
00:38:44,535 --> 00:38:45,870
Thank you.

845
00:38:49,273 --> 00:38:52,476
So, how was your date?

846
00:38:52,510 --> 00:38:55,813
It was a work thing, not a date.

847
00:38:55,846 --> 00:38:58,582
You were out pretty long for a work thing.

848
00:38:58,616 --> 00:38:59,993
I thought you said you were just spending

849
00:39:00,017 --> 00:39:01,519
part of the day with him.

850
00:39:01,552 --> 00:39:03,254
He took me to dinner.

851
00:39:03,287 --> 00:39:05,022
For work.

852
00:39:05,055 --> 00:39:06,791
Don't look at me like that.

853
00:39:06,824 --> 00:39:07,992
Stop it!

854
00:39:08,025 --> 00:39:10,161
Okay, it was great.

855
00:39:10,194 --> 00:39:12,530
He's surprising.

856
00:39:12,563 --> 00:39:14,131
Different than I thought.

857
00:39:14,165 --> 00:39:17,535
And a little bit frustrating at times.

858
00:39:17,568 --> 00:39:20,237
But I don't know, I
think he likes my writing.

859
00:39:20,271 --> 00:39:22,907
Of course he does, you're talented.

860
00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:25,509
But he doesn't know it's my writing.

861
00:39:25,543 --> 00:39:27,912
He kept quoting me to myself all day.

862
00:39:27,945 --> 00:39:32,283
Things that Serena said
in the podcast or in articles.

863
00:39:32,316 --> 00:39:34,618
It was all my own talking points,

864
00:39:34,652 --> 00:39:36,754
and he has no idea.

865
00:39:37,688 --> 00:39:39,023
Wow.

866
00:39:39,056 --> 00:39:40,257
I know.

867
00:39:40,291 --> 00:39:43,894
It was so... encouraging.

868
00:39:43,928 --> 00:39:45,129
And disheartening.

869
00:39:46,897 --> 00:39:49,900
He's like a real writer.

870
00:39:49,934 --> 00:39:51,702
And to have made an impact on him

871
00:39:51,735 --> 00:39:55,306
made me feel like maybe I
know what I'm talking about.

872
00:39:55,339 --> 00:39:57,975
Abby, just tell him.

873
00:39:58,008 --> 00:39:59,844
I can't. My NDA.

874
00:39:59,877 --> 00:40:01,645
Ah, that stupid piece of paper.

875
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:03,814
It's a legal document.

876
00:40:03,848 --> 00:40:06,817
And I'm so close to
finally getting the credit

877
00:40:06,851 --> 00:40:09,019
for my work.

878
00:40:09,053 --> 00:40:11,288
I'm gonna mess it up for what?

879
00:40:11,322 --> 00:40:13,824
To impress some guy?

880
00:40:13,858 --> 00:40:16,627
It's not even worth it.

881
00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:19,763
And frankly, we're too different.

882
00:40:19,797 --> 00:40:21,332
He's not even the romantic type.

883
00:40:23,367 --> 00:40:27,638
Besides, he'd seen photos of Serena.

884
00:40:27,671 --> 00:40:31,008
To him, it's her face and
her voice saying my words.

885
00:40:31,041 --> 00:40:34,612
It's not gonna be as impactful
coming from me, I know that.

886
00:40:34,645 --> 00:40:36,847
You can't see what I see.

887
00:40:36,881 --> 00:40:38,582
You're so special.

888
00:40:38,616 --> 00:40:40,584
Jack spent the whole day with you.

889
00:40:40,618 --> 00:40:41,986
How could he not realize

890
00:40:42,019 --> 00:40:45,923
how talented and funny and beautiful...

891
00:40:45,956 --> 00:40:49,126
Well, if all of that were true,

892
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,930
he's gonna forget as
soon as he meets Serena.

893
00:40:52,963 --> 00:40:57,368
She's gonna sweep him off his feet.

894
00:40:57,401 --> 00:40:59,670
But she's so awful.

895
00:40:59,703 --> 00:41:02,273
She's been fully co-opting
your brain for years,

896
00:41:02,306 --> 00:41:06,911
and she treats you lesser than
when you should be full partner.

897
00:41:06,944 --> 00:41:10,014
Just consider telling
him, that's all I'm saying.

898
00:41:11,649 --> 00:41:14,718
Okay, I'll consider it.

899
00:41:19,423 --> 00:41:22,927
Sure, the situation
has been a little weird,

900
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,263
but I feel like I'm getting
some good insights.

901
00:41:26,297 --> 00:41:28,232
I'm sure she's very charming,

902
00:41:28,265 --> 00:41:30,334
but you're there to profile Serena,

903
00:41:30,367 --> 00:41:32,369
not her assistant.

904
00:41:32,403 --> 00:41:36,907
Charming is not the word,
but Abby is very authentic.

905
00:41:36,941 --> 00:41:38,943
I mean, I think she really, truly believes

906
00:41:38,976 --> 00:41:41,679
in the romantic mission of the show.

907
00:41:41,712 --> 00:41:44,848
That's not the point I'm making, Jack.

908
00:41:44,882 --> 00:41:47,117
I get your point, okay?

909
00:41:47,151 --> 00:41:49,119
But there's something weird going on.

910
00:41:49,153 --> 00:41:51,922
Abby's been pretty dodgy
with some of her answers,

911
00:41:51,956 --> 00:41:54,825
but it makes sense if her
boss has instructed her

912
00:41:54,858 --> 00:41:56,694
not to give me too much information.

913
00:41:56,727 --> 00:41:58,963
Why would she do that?

914
00:41:58,996 --> 00:42:01,231
You're sounding a little paranoid.

915
00:42:01,265 --> 00:42:03,734
I don't know, but I'm gonna figure it out.

916
00:42:03,767 --> 00:42:05,336
I'm about to take a tour of the show.

917
00:42:05,369 --> 00:42:06,971
I'll do a little digging.

918
00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:10,240
There's more to the story, I just can tell.

919
00:42:10,274 --> 00:42:12,409
Once you get in there,
really push to spend time

920
00:42:12,443 --> 00:42:14,144
with Serena herself.

921
00:42:14,178 --> 00:42:17,047
Who's the woman behind the voice?

922
00:42:17,081 --> 00:42:19,516
Hey, I gotta go, uh, I'll update you.

923
00:42:23,387 --> 00:42:25,189
-Good morning.
-Good morning.

924
00:42:25,222 --> 00:42:26,924
-Coffee?
-Thanks.

925
00:42:26,957 --> 00:42:27,925
You're welcome.

926
00:42:27,958 --> 00:42:28,993
This is my sister, Brynn.

927
00:42:29,026 --> 00:42:31,462
Hi, Brynn, Abby's sister, I'm Jack Whitman.

928
00:42:31,495 --> 00:42:32,796
Hi, Jack.

929
00:42:32,830 --> 00:42:34,198
Isn't she brilliant?

930
00:42:34,231 --> 00:42:36,834
-Brynn.
-She's been very helpful.

931
00:42:38,068 --> 00:42:39,436
Brynn has to be going now.

932
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:40,704
Well, it's nice to meet you.

933
00:42:40,738 --> 00:42:41,839
You too.

934
00:42:43,474 --> 00:42:45,242
Are you ready for the grand tour?

935
00:42:45,275 --> 00:42:46,944
I am thrilled.

936
00:42:48,312 --> 00:42:49,313
It's pretty bare bones,

937
00:42:49,346 --> 00:42:52,716
but we don't need much to record the show.

938
00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:56,987
And, you know, it also can be
engineered remotely if needed.

939
00:42:57,021 --> 00:43:01,025
The most complicated
part is the live calls in.

940
00:43:01,058 --> 00:43:03,060
Wait a minute, what is this?

941
00:43:04,028 --> 00:43:07,998
That's Serena's Confidence Mirror.

942
00:43:08,032 --> 00:43:10,901
Just words, photos of herself,

943
00:43:10,934 --> 00:43:15,139
and just some of her favorite features.

944
00:43:15,172 --> 00:43:17,074
She's pretty photogenic.

945
00:43:18,776 --> 00:43:20,944
Yeah.

946
00:43:20,978 --> 00:43:23,414
The new goal is to have
my profile be good enough

947
00:43:23,447 --> 00:43:25,182
to make the Confidence Mirror.

948
00:43:26,350 --> 00:43:28,352
I'm sure it will.

949
00:43:28,385 --> 00:43:31,288
Serena loves a good story about herself.

950
00:43:33,857 --> 00:43:36,794
Speaking of the devil.

951
00:43:38,429 --> 00:43:40,764
It looks like we can rebook your meeting

952
00:43:40,798 --> 00:43:42,533
for tomorrow morning if that works for you.

953
00:43:42,566 --> 00:43:44,401
That's fantastic.

954
00:43:44,435 --> 00:43:45,469
Okay, fantastic.

955
00:43:45,502 --> 00:43:46,870
Awesome.

956
00:43:49,139 --> 00:43:52,509
My editor's really looking
forward to the story.

957
00:43:52,543 --> 00:43:55,279
Gotta say, I'm looking
forward to meeting Serena.

958
00:43:55,312 --> 00:43:57,848
She really knows how
to build up the suspense.

959
00:43:57,881 --> 00:44:00,317
I'm sure she'll live up to expectations,

960
00:44:00,350 --> 00:44:01,218
she always does.

961
00:44:01,251 --> 00:44:05,089
New merch, last round sold really well.

962
00:44:05,122 --> 00:44:06,924
You should take those.

963
00:44:06,957 --> 00:44:08,802
You know, you can wear
it when you meet Serena.

964
00:44:08,826 --> 00:44:11,462
I can make one little bag for you.

965
00:44:11,495 --> 00:44:14,565
Okay, if you say so.

966
00:44:14,598 --> 00:44:16,300
Thanks.

967
00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:19,369
You know, merchandise
with advertisement on it

968
00:44:19,403 --> 00:44:22,072
seems a little off-brand
for what I've seen so far

969
00:44:22,106 --> 00:44:23,373
from the podcast.

970
00:44:23,407 --> 00:44:25,275
In what way?

971
00:44:25,309 --> 00:44:29,046
Well, the insights on the
show feel so down to earth.

972
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:30,881
There's sort of a disconnect there

973
00:44:30,914 --> 00:44:32,583
between the words and the voice.

974
00:44:32,616 --> 00:44:34,051
Well, at the end of the day,

975
00:44:34,084 --> 00:44:36,220
Serena is just a small-town girl

976
00:44:36,253 --> 00:44:39,423
trying to mend one broken heart at a time.

977
00:44:39,456 --> 00:44:42,092
The merch is part of that journey.

978
00:44:45,329 --> 00:44:48,532
And this is the end of our tour.

979
00:44:50,467 --> 00:44:51,468
You okay?

980
00:44:51,502 --> 00:44:53,070
You seem kind of down.

981
00:44:53,103 --> 00:44:55,272
No, I'm fine, it's just...

982
00:44:55,305 --> 00:44:56,840
I'm working on a project

983
00:44:56,874 --> 00:44:59,877
and I'm stuck, I can't work through it.

984
00:44:59,910 --> 00:45:01,478
Mm.

985
00:45:01,512 --> 00:45:03,580
Well, work advice is the kind of advice

986
00:45:03,614 --> 00:45:05,983
I can give if you want.

987
00:45:06,016 --> 00:45:06,984
Sure.

988
00:45:07,017 --> 00:45:10,120
Literally do as bad as possible.

989
00:45:10,154 --> 00:45:11,855
Really? Why?

990
00:45:11,889 --> 00:45:13,924
Well, when you take out the expectation,

991
00:45:13,957 --> 00:45:15,893
the good version will come out.

992
00:45:15,926 --> 00:45:17,494
It's kind of a writing secret of mine.

993
00:45:17,528 --> 00:45:19,429
I call it the "bad version."

994
00:45:19,463 --> 00:45:22,132
It takes confidence to be willing to fail,

995
00:45:22,166 --> 00:45:24,301
and it almost always works.

996
00:45:25,903 --> 00:45:27,337
Thank you.

997
00:45:31,375 --> 00:45:34,211
Write the bad version.

998
00:45:34,244 --> 00:45:36,213
Okay.

999
00:45:39,283 --> 00:45:41,118
Bring it on

1000
00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:48,158
Bring it on

1001
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,630
I'm ready for somethin', somethin' new

1002
00:45:53,664 --> 00:45:57,367
I'm ready to show the world what I can do

1003
00:45:57,401 --> 00:46:01,138
It's gonna be rockin', that's all I can say

1004
00:46:01,171 --> 00:46:04,975
No reason to stop
'cause I'm goin' all the way

1005
00:46:06,376 --> 00:46:09,146
Come on, bring it on

1006
00:46:09,179 --> 00:46:13,050
Got the wind on my back, I'm feelin' strong

1007
00:46:13,083 --> 00:46:15,152
Got my flag unfurled

1008
00:46:15,185 --> 00:46:17,054
I'm singin' this song

1009
00:46:17,087 --> 00:46:20,023
I can't believe that worked, can you?

1010
00:46:21,358 --> 00:46:23,227
And it's actually really good.

1011
00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:25,062
Serena's gonna be so psyched.

1012
00:46:26,997 --> 00:46:32,135
Spring Fling segment is in your inbox.

1013
00:46:33,370 --> 00:46:35,439
Excited about this one.

1014
00:46:44,648 --> 00:46:45,649
Hey, Diane.

1015
00:46:45,682 --> 00:46:47,951
Hi. You okay?

1016
00:46:47,985 --> 00:46:50,153
Yeah, just wrapping up a workout.

1017
00:46:50,187 --> 00:46:51,488
I got your message.

1018
00:46:51,521 --> 00:46:54,124
Serena's finally confirmed her interview.

1019
00:46:54,157 --> 00:46:55,359
Tomorrow.

1020
00:46:55,392 --> 00:46:57,227
I have a lot of questions for her.

1021
00:46:57,261 --> 00:46:58,362
I hate to admit it,

1022
00:46:58,395 --> 00:47:00,340
but I think the woman knows
what she's talking about.

1023
00:47:00,364 --> 00:47:02,399
You're starting to sound like a romantic.

1024
00:47:02,432 --> 00:47:04,268
Cough twice if you need rescuing.

1025
00:47:04,301 --> 00:47:06,570
Don't worry, I'm still a skeptic.

1026
00:47:06,603 --> 00:47:08,038
She's still being evasive,

1027
00:47:08,071 --> 00:47:11,408
but maybe a show with
this large of a platform

1028
00:47:11,441 --> 00:47:13,243
is actually helping people.

1029
00:47:14,311 --> 00:47:15,545
Go get 'em.

1030
00:47:17,481 --> 00:47:18,982
Thanks, Diane.

1031
00:47:26,456 --> 00:47:28,992
I thought you said he was from New York.

1032
00:47:29,026 --> 00:47:31,628
He's originally from Boyne City, Michigan,

1033
00:47:31,662 --> 00:47:33,497
but he's lived in New
York City for a decade.

1034
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:34,665
Mm-hm.

1035
00:47:34,698 --> 00:47:36,366
Did you review the list that I sent you

1036
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,137
with all the areas of interest
and his journalism background?

1037
00:47:42,739 --> 00:47:47,077
I did, but, wow, Abby, it was so dense.

1038
00:47:47,110 --> 00:47:49,579
You like this guy or something?

1039
00:47:49,613 --> 00:47:51,081
No.

1040
00:47:51,114 --> 00:47:54,117
Well, back off, he's mine!

1041
00:47:57,454 --> 00:48:00,223
Ah, we have fun.

1042
00:48:00,257 --> 00:48:01,725
I'm gonna finish getting ready.

1043
00:48:03,593 --> 00:48:05,662
This'll be perfect.

1044
00:48:05,696 --> 00:48:07,264
First I'll do the interview

1045
00:48:07,297 --> 00:48:10,634
and then I'll take him to
lunch, someplace public,

1046
00:48:10,667 --> 00:48:12,736
make sure people spot us together.

1047
00:48:15,238 --> 00:48:17,140
Uh, Abby.

1048
00:48:17,174 --> 00:48:19,076
Could you make sure
the main room is tidied up

1049
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:21,178
before he gets here?

1050
00:48:21,211 --> 00:48:22,546
Sure, Serena.

1051
00:48:37,561 --> 00:48:39,296
Hey.

1052
00:48:39,329 --> 00:48:41,365
What do you think?

1053
00:48:41,398 --> 00:48:42,833
No good.

1054
00:48:42,866 --> 00:48:43,834
It's too much.

1055
00:48:43,867 --> 00:48:46,503
-It's perfect.
-Okay.

1056
00:48:46,536 --> 00:48:48,205
Can I get you anything?

1057
00:48:48,238 --> 00:48:51,274
Um, some water would be nice.

1058
00:48:51,308 --> 00:48:52,376
Thank you.

1059
00:48:54,144 --> 00:48:57,280
This hat is a bit much.

1060
00:49:03,286 --> 00:49:05,355
Jack, hello.

1061
00:49:05,389 --> 00:49:08,291
I'm so sorry, I hope I
didn't keep you waiting.

1062
00:49:08,325 --> 00:49:09,693
Oh, okay.

1063
00:49:09,726 --> 00:49:10,560
That's nice.

1064
00:49:10,594 --> 00:49:14,564
Um, it's nice to finally meet you.

1065
00:49:14,598 --> 00:49:16,833
Abby has done such a wonderful job

1066
00:49:16,867 --> 00:49:18,769
familiarizing me with your work.

1067
00:49:18,802 --> 00:49:20,570
Oh, good.

1068
00:49:20,604 --> 00:49:22,606
I hope she didn't talk your ear off.

1069
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,809
Kidding, Abby.

1070
00:49:25,842 --> 00:49:29,713
Jack, I just love our hat on you.

1071
00:49:29,746 --> 00:49:31,882
-Thank you.
-Abby.

1072
00:49:31,915 --> 00:49:33,784
Shouldn't we have Jack model merchandise

1073
00:49:33,817 --> 00:49:35,519
for our website?

1074
00:49:35,552 --> 00:49:37,687
Sales would skyrocket.

1075
00:49:39,790 --> 00:49:41,224
Not that we've had an issue.

1076
00:49:41,258 --> 00:49:43,827
Those hats are selling like hotcakes.

1077
00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:45,295
Do you mind if I record?

1078
00:49:45,328 --> 00:49:47,364
-No, not at all.
-Great.

1079
00:49:49,232 --> 00:49:51,334
Red leather, yellow leather.

1080
00:49:51,368 --> 00:49:52,502
Red leather, yellow...

1081
00:49:53,537 --> 00:49:55,338
Um... oh, you ready?

1082
00:49:55,372 --> 00:49:56,773
Yeah.

1083
00:49:56,807 --> 00:49:59,776
Well, I am so glad you've taken an interest

1084
00:49:59,810 --> 00:50:01,845
in my humble little show.

1085
00:50:01,878 --> 00:50:05,248
I would hardly call
your listener ship humble

1086
00:50:05,282 --> 00:50:06,583
at this point.

1087
00:50:06,616 --> 00:50:08,819
You've made quite a splash industry-wide.

1088
00:50:08,852 --> 00:50:11,354
Well, that's kind of you to say.

1089
00:50:11,388 --> 00:50:14,224
You know, with enough hard work,

1090
00:50:14,257 --> 00:50:16,293
anything is possible.

1091
00:50:16,326 --> 00:50:19,830
And my listeners are everything to me.

1092
00:50:19,863 --> 00:50:21,431
They feel like they know me,

1093
00:50:21,465 --> 00:50:23,500
and I have to say,

1094
00:50:23,533 --> 00:50:28,605
after hearing from so many
of them every single week,

1095
00:50:28,638 --> 00:50:32,175
I feel like I know them too.

1096
00:50:32,209 --> 00:50:33,477
I'm very lucky.

1097
00:50:38,348 --> 00:50:40,717
And that's how it started.

1098
00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:43,386
That's quite a journey
to where you are now.

1099
00:50:43,420 --> 00:50:46,223
Well, Jack, you know,
at the end of the day,

1100
00:50:46,256 --> 00:50:48,391
I am just a small-town girl

1101
00:50:48,425 --> 00:50:51,795
trying to help mend one
broken heart at a time.

1102
00:50:55,899 --> 00:50:57,834
Everything okay?

1103
00:50:57,868 --> 00:50:59,936
Uh, of course.

1104
00:51:01,571 --> 00:51:04,574
So, Serena, I would be remiss

1105
00:51:04,608 --> 00:51:08,545
if I didn't ask you about
your last relationship ending.

1106
00:51:08,578 --> 00:51:13,316
Oh, I didn't realize we were
going to be covering that.

1107
00:51:13,350 --> 00:51:14,718
Uh, if you're okay with it.

1108
00:51:14,751 --> 00:51:17,354
I only ask because rumors of the breakup

1109
00:51:17,387 --> 00:51:19,689
have become a bit invasive,

1110
00:51:19,723 --> 00:51:21,825
and since you deal in romance,

1111
00:51:21,858 --> 00:51:24,761
I have an obligation to
the readers to inquire.

1112
00:51:28,932 --> 00:51:32,636
You know, part of my job is advising people

1113
00:51:32,669 --> 00:51:34,704
when their relationship isn't working,

1114
00:51:34,738 --> 00:51:39,442
and I had to be honest
with myself, and with him.

1115
00:51:39,476 --> 00:51:42,779
We each deserve our own happiness

1116
00:51:42,812 --> 00:51:45,248
and wish each other the best.

1117
00:51:45,282 --> 00:51:46,950
If that means we have to stand alone

1118
00:51:46,983 --> 00:51:48,585
or with someone else,

1119
00:51:48,618 --> 00:51:52,422
well, then that's what we need to do.

1120
00:51:52,455 --> 00:51:54,257
Wow, well, that's great.

1121
00:51:54,291 --> 00:51:57,027
I can see why you're the
person to dole out advice.

1122
00:51:57,060 --> 00:51:58,762
Thank you for answering.

1123
00:51:58,795 --> 00:52:00,964
And I must say that some advice you gave

1124
00:52:00,997 --> 00:52:02,933
on a previous episode helped me

1125
00:52:02,966 --> 00:52:05,035
with my relationship with my ex too.

1126
00:52:05,068 --> 00:52:06,369
Oh, really?

1127
00:52:06,403 --> 00:52:07,537
Oh, I'm glad to hear it.

1128
00:52:07,571 --> 00:52:12,042
Yes, it was an episode about closure.

1129
00:52:12,075 --> 00:52:16,379
And you were talking about
the need to take things slow.

1130
00:52:16,413 --> 00:52:18,615
What was it that you were saying. Um...

1131
00:52:18,648 --> 00:52:23,486
Uh, well, you know, uh,
there have been so many...

1132
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,723
There is no timeline for healing.

1133
00:52:26,756 --> 00:52:28,024
Yeah, that's right.

1134
00:52:28,058 --> 00:52:30,961
There's no timeline for healing.

1135
00:52:30,994 --> 00:52:32,696
You were telling your listeners

1136
00:52:32,729 --> 00:52:35,498
not to rush through the process of loss,

1137
00:52:35,532 --> 00:52:39,502
to live in the feelings
on their own schedule.

1138
00:52:41,571 --> 00:52:43,006
Because there's...

1139
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,742
There's no timeline for healing.

1140
00:52:45,775 --> 00:52:46,843
-Right.
-Right.

1141
00:52:46,876 --> 00:52:49,346
It made me wish that I had your podcast

1142
00:52:49,379 --> 00:52:50,880
during that breakup,

1143
00:52:50,914 --> 00:52:55,385
though I'm happy now
people get to use that advice

1144
00:52:55,418 --> 00:52:56,953
when they may need it the most.

1145
00:52:56,987 --> 00:53:00,390
Well, I hope those people buy merchandise.

1146
00:53:07,697 --> 00:53:11,067
And, of course, I am glad
I could have been of help

1147
00:53:11,101 --> 00:53:15,538
and healing to you
and to all of my listeners.

1148
00:53:17,007 --> 00:53:20,810
Um, do you need a couple minutes

1149
00:53:20,844 --> 00:53:23,847
before we proceed with
a few more questions?

1150
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,649
Actually, I have an even better idea.

1151
00:53:25,682 --> 00:53:26,950
I was thinking,

1152
00:53:26,983 --> 00:53:30,854
what if you could really
see me in my element?

1153
00:53:30,887 --> 00:53:33,790
You want me to attend a recording of yours?

1154
00:53:33,823 --> 00:53:34,991
Even better.

1155
00:53:35,025 --> 00:53:38,962
You are going to escort me
to the National Podcast Awards

1156
00:53:38,995 --> 00:53:41,498
at the end of the week.

1157
00:53:41,531 --> 00:53:42,531
Um...

1158
00:53:43,633 --> 00:53:45,769
I actually don't date...

1159
00:53:45,802 --> 00:53:47,103
Oh, platonically.

1160
00:53:47,137 --> 00:53:49,706
Jack, really.

1161
00:53:49,739 --> 00:53:52,142
It's gonna be a fabulous party.

1162
00:53:52,175 --> 00:53:55,545
You'll get to see me among
members of the industry.

1163
00:53:55,578 --> 00:53:58,848
It'll be a great insider
perspective for you.

1164
00:53:58,882 --> 00:54:01,117
We'll have a great time.

1165
00:54:01,151 --> 00:54:03,353
I won't take no for an answer.

1166
00:54:04,821 --> 00:54:07,023
Okay, uh...

1167
00:54:07,057 --> 00:54:09,592
I guess I'm in.

1168
00:54:09,626 --> 00:54:10,994
Hurray!

1169
00:54:11,027 --> 00:54:13,063
I hope you packed a suit.

1170
00:54:15,799 --> 00:54:16,799
You know...

1171
00:54:17,734 --> 00:54:21,471
I don't know about you, but I am famished.

1172
00:54:21,504 --> 00:54:24,808
Maybe we could take
this little interview to lunch?

1173
00:54:24,841 --> 00:54:27,043
Sure, I can do that.

1174
00:54:27,077 --> 00:54:28,745
Abby will be joining us?

1175
00:54:28,778 --> 00:54:31,781
Oh, Abby is so busy, unfortunately.

1176
00:54:31,815 --> 00:54:35,819
But don't worry, she'll be at
the Podcast Awards as well.

1177
00:54:35,852 --> 00:54:37,687
I like to give my employees little perks

1178
00:54:37,721 --> 00:54:39,556
whenever I can, you know.

1179
00:54:40,824 --> 00:54:42,892
Let me grab my things.

1180
00:54:42,926 --> 00:54:44,461
Okay.

1181
00:54:49,766 --> 00:54:51,601
I think to be qualified to give advice,

1182
00:54:51,634 --> 00:54:54,204
you really have to live, you know?

1183
00:54:54,237 --> 00:54:56,139
Actually, that's a good segue.

1184
00:54:56,172 --> 00:54:57,707
Mm-hm.

1185
00:54:57,741 --> 00:55:00,510
What advice would you give this couple?

1186
00:55:00,543 --> 00:55:02,879
Well, I don't know them, silly.

1187
00:55:02,912 --> 00:55:03,713
Yeah, I know,

1188
00:55:03,747 --> 00:55:05,648
but based off their body language,

1189
00:55:05,682 --> 00:55:07,984
do you have any initial insights?

1190
00:55:09,986 --> 00:55:13,056
I think they need to go
see a stylist together.

1191
00:55:16,259 --> 00:55:17,994
-Serena!
-Oh.

1192
00:55:18,027 --> 00:55:19,863
Oh, my... for goodness sakes,

1193
00:55:19,896 --> 00:55:21,564
I'm so sorry, Jack.

1194
00:55:21,598 --> 00:55:22,632
Who's the new guy?

1195
00:55:22,665 --> 00:55:25,068
Oh, just smile and wave.

1196
00:55:25,101 --> 00:55:27,237
Does this happen to you often?

1197
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:29,539
Oh, such a bother.

1198
00:55:31,641 --> 00:55:32,675
Seriously, just smile.

1199
00:55:32,709 --> 00:55:34,077
They'll take the picture and go.

1200
00:55:39,249 --> 00:55:40,517
Beautiful.

1201
00:55:40,550 --> 00:55:41,718
Mm-hm.

1202
00:55:47,957 --> 00:55:51,561
I just wish people would see me
as a normal person, you know?

1203
00:55:58,968 --> 00:56:00,937
Thanks, Russ.

1204
00:56:00,970 --> 00:56:03,540
As always, I appreciate your discretion.

1205
00:56:03,573 --> 00:56:05,942
Any time, Serena.

1206
00:56:05,975 --> 00:56:07,977
Pleasure doing business with ya.

1207
00:56:14,584 --> 00:56:16,820
Lucy, you need two hands for that.

1208
00:56:16,853 --> 00:56:19,522
Aunt Abby, this is your boss, right?

1209
00:56:19,556 --> 00:56:21,591
Yep, that's Serena.

1210
00:56:21,624 --> 00:56:23,660
Mm. And that's the guy you like?

1211
00:56:23,693 --> 00:56:26,262
Um, Brynn.

1212
00:56:26,296 --> 00:56:28,832
What? We value honesty in our house.

1213
00:56:28,865 --> 00:56:30,266
I don't like him, like him.

1214
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:31,668
It's professional.

1215
00:56:32,969 --> 00:56:34,838
What did I say about valuing honesty?

1216
00:56:34,871 --> 00:56:36,105
What?

1217
00:56:37,774 --> 00:56:41,544
Okay, maybe I like him a little.

1218
00:56:41,578 --> 00:56:43,146
But it doesn't even matter.

1219
00:56:43,179 --> 00:56:45,081
He lives in New York.

1220
00:56:45,114 --> 00:56:46,816
He hates love.

1221
00:56:46,850 --> 00:56:49,219
And he thinks Serena's the brilliant one.

1222
00:56:51,287 --> 00:56:53,556
But you're the brilliant one.

1223
00:56:53,590 --> 00:56:56,092
Yeah, I mean, you're the
real writer of Love's Listening.

1224
00:56:56,125 --> 00:56:59,696
If he likes her words, he likes your words.

1225
00:56:59,729 --> 00:57:02,665
Yeah, but if I tell him, I could get fired.

1226
00:57:02,699 --> 00:57:05,635
I think if you like him,
you should just tell him.

1227
00:57:05,668 --> 00:57:06,936
Agreed.

1228
00:57:06,970 --> 00:57:09,939
If you start putting
yourself out there in love,

1229
00:57:09,973 --> 00:57:13,209
maybe you'll start getting
what you want at work.

1230
00:57:14,944 --> 00:57:18,214
You've been hiding since your breakup.

1231
00:57:18,248 --> 00:57:21,117
Yeah, it's been literally years.

1232
00:57:22,819 --> 00:57:24,587
You're right, I know.

1233
00:57:24,621 --> 00:57:26,756
It's just I always thought

1234
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:30,193
that it would be like
Dad told us growing up.

1235
00:57:30,226 --> 00:57:32,996
You have to keep your head down, work hard,

1236
00:57:33,029 --> 00:57:34,931
and you'll get rewarded.

1237
00:57:34,964 --> 00:57:39,235
I love Dad, but that advice
doesn't really work for women.

1238
00:57:40,837 --> 00:57:42,672
What do I always tell you?

1239
00:57:42,705 --> 00:57:44,240
Don't be afraid to say what you want

1240
00:57:44,274 --> 00:57:45,275
and what you deserve.

1241
00:57:45,308 --> 00:57:46,976
That's right.

1242
00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:49,112
The work hard is only part of it.

1243
00:57:49,145 --> 00:57:51,347
You have to stand up for yourself too.

1244
00:57:51,381 --> 00:57:52,815
Always remember that.

1245
00:57:52,849 --> 00:57:53,950
Of course.

1246
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:58,054
Okay, let's finish this up.

1247
00:57:58,087 --> 00:57:59,789
I'm starving.

1248
00:58:05,261 --> 00:58:07,196
Cassie.

1249
00:58:07,230 --> 00:58:10,300
I think you know the answer
to your question deep down,

1250
00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:13,136
but maybe you just don't want to admit it.

1251
00:58:13,169 --> 00:58:15,271
How 'bout you?

1252
00:58:15,305 --> 00:58:20,743
I don't know, I just feel
like we could compromise?

1253
00:58:20,777 --> 00:58:23,646
Well, compromise can be a great thing,

1254
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,317
unless you end up
resenting someone for it later.

1255
00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:29,385
Could you leave your dream job,

1256
00:58:29,419 --> 00:58:30,787
move across the country,

1257
00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:32,755
away from your support network,

1258
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:37,026
and not resent him for
it six months from now?

1259
00:58:37,060 --> 00:58:38,895
Probably not.

1260
00:58:40,463 --> 00:58:42,699
Well, then I'm so sorry to say it,

1261
00:58:42,732 --> 00:58:46,235
but I think you have your answer.

1262
00:58:46,269 --> 00:58:50,139
It's better to have this hard,
honest conversation with him now

1263
00:58:50,173 --> 00:58:54,444
than bottle it up and
resent him for it later.

1264
00:58:54,477 --> 00:58:57,380
Perhaps the two of you could
try long distance for a while,

1265
00:58:57,413 --> 00:58:59,782
maybe see how it goes?

1266
00:58:59,816 --> 00:59:02,151
You're right, I think I knew the answer,

1267
00:59:02,185 --> 00:59:03,953
but I needed to hear it.

1268
00:59:03,987 --> 00:59:06,222
Thank you, Serena.

1269
00:59:06,255 --> 00:59:08,424
Of course, Cassie.

1270
00:59:08,458 --> 00:59:10,360
Love's Listening is rooting for you

1271
00:59:10,393 --> 00:59:12,929
no matter what you decide.

1272
00:59:12,962 --> 00:59:15,298
Thank you so much for calling in.

1273
00:59:17,767 --> 00:59:21,037
And thank you, everyone,
for tuning in today.

1274
00:59:21,070 --> 00:59:24,107
Give us a call if you need any advice.

1275
00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:26,409
And, as always, darlings,

1276
00:59:26,442 --> 00:59:31,280
I'm Serena Shephard and Love's Listening.

1277
00:59:32,782 --> 00:59:34,951
Engineer says we're clear.

1278
00:59:34,984 --> 00:59:36,953
Ah. Excellent.

1279
00:59:39,255 --> 00:59:40,790
Ah.

1280
00:59:42,091 --> 00:59:43,426
Hey.

1281
00:59:43,459 --> 00:59:45,128
You're trending on Twitter.

1282
00:59:45,161 --> 00:59:47,397
Oh.

1283
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:50,833
Oh my God.

1284
00:59:50,867 --> 00:59:53,903
Looks like the highest live numbers ever.

1285
00:59:53,936 --> 00:59:55,772
Nearly five million listeners.

1286
00:59:58,007 --> 00:59:59,175
Oh my God.

1287
01:00:01,310 --> 01:00:02,912
I think this calls for some bubbly.

1288
01:00:02,945 --> 01:00:03,985
Okay, I'm gonna go get it.

1289
01:00:04,013 --> 01:00:05,081
Oh, Abby.

1290
01:00:05,114 --> 01:00:07,150
You wouldn't know which
bottle was celebratory.

1291
01:00:07,183 --> 01:00:08,918
I'll get it.

1292
01:00:08,951 --> 01:00:10,053
Meet me in the main room?

1293
01:00:10,086 --> 01:00:11,788
Sure.

1294
01:00:11,821 --> 01:00:13,456
Five million!

1295
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:19,128
Congratulations.

1296
01:00:19,162 --> 01:00:20,163
Thank you.

1297
01:00:20,196 --> 01:00:21,764
That's Serena's show.

1298
01:00:23,032 --> 01:00:25,068
Is it?

1299
01:00:25,101 --> 01:00:26,169
What are all these notes

1300
01:00:26,202 --> 01:00:28,171
you keep flashing in front of her?

1301
01:00:28,204 --> 01:00:30,106
They're just timing notes

1302
01:00:30,139 --> 01:00:32,308
to let her know when to wrap it up

1303
01:00:32,341 --> 01:00:34,544
or move on.

1304
01:00:34,577 --> 01:00:36,279
Ah-ha.

1305
01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:39,882
Well, should we join her?

1306
01:00:39,916 --> 01:00:40,917
Yeah.

1307
01:00:55,298 --> 01:00:57,500
You know...

1308
01:00:57,533 --> 01:01:00,803
I don't have any good bottles of bubbly.

1309
01:01:00,837 --> 01:01:02,271
Let's go out to celebrate.

1310
01:01:02,305 --> 01:01:05,007
Yeah, okay. Sure.

1311
01:01:05,041 --> 01:01:07,243
-I'll go grab my purse.
-Oh, no, Abby,

1312
01:01:07,276 --> 01:01:10,279
there's so much to do to
prepare for the Podcast Awards,

1313
01:01:10,313 --> 01:01:12,482
I need you here manning
the fort while I'm out.

1314
01:01:12,515 --> 01:01:14,417
Oh, I can move things around.

1315
01:01:14,450 --> 01:01:16,119
-No problem.
-Oh, no, Abby,

1316
01:01:16,152 --> 01:01:19,989
you have so many more
important things to tend to.

1317
01:01:20,022 --> 01:01:22,558
Serena, I can take care about it later.

1318
01:01:22,592 --> 01:01:24,026
It's not a big deal.

1319
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:28,164
I think you should sit this one out.

1320
01:01:28,197 --> 01:01:30,466
I need a few things done while I'm out.

1321
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:32,568
I'll get you the list.

1322
01:01:33,636 --> 01:01:36,172
Meet you outside, Jack?

1323
01:01:47,316 --> 01:01:52,321
Do not ever contradict me
in front of anyone ever again.

1324
01:01:52,355 --> 01:01:55,258
-Serena...
-If you have free time,

1325
01:01:55,291 --> 01:01:57,593
we'll remedy that.

1326
01:01:57,627 --> 01:01:59,929
Keep your phone on.

1327
01:02:05,568 --> 01:02:07,970
I think I need to come home.

1328
01:02:08,004 --> 01:02:10,439
Do you have everything
you need for the story?

1329
01:02:10,473 --> 01:02:13,109
It's complicated.

1330
01:02:13,142 --> 01:02:15,278
The assistant.

1331
01:02:15,311 --> 01:02:17,246
No.

1332
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,247
Why?

1333
01:02:18,281 --> 01:02:20,116
What do you mean?

1334
01:02:20,149 --> 01:02:22,418
-Jack...
-Nothing happened, okay?

1335
01:02:22,451 --> 01:02:23,486
I'm a professional.

1336
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:25,221
It's not like that.

1337
01:02:25,254 --> 01:02:27,623
But this whole situation is strange.

1338
01:02:27,657 --> 01:02:30,359
You know, I don't think
Serena is who she says she is,

1339
01:02:30,393 --> 01:02:34,430
but I can't accuse her
without something solid.

1340
01:02:34,463 --> 01:02:35,674
Then it sounds like you don't have

1341
01:02:35,698 --> 01:02:37,633
everything you need for a story.

1342
01:02:37,667 --> 01:02:42,371
This is not the story I
was supposed to be writing.

1343
01:02:42,405 --> 01:02:45,408
No, but this one sounds better.

1344
01:02:45,441 --> 01:02:48,311
Stick with it.

1345
01:02:48,344 --> 01:02:50,179
Goodbye, Jack.

1346
01:02:50,213 --> 01:02:52,448
Bye, Diane.

1347
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:23,946
-Aunt Abby, you're late.
-And you're a mess.

1348
01:03:23,980 --> 01:03:27,416
Serena had me do a ton of extra errands.

1349
01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:30,086
Prop me up against the wall
and make me look fabulous.

1350
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:31,697
I'm gonna take a nap while you're doing it.

1351
01:03:31,721 --> 01:03:33,155
Uh, no, you're not.

1352
01:03:33,189 --> 01:03:34,366
Lucy, get this woman a cafecito.

1353
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:36,525
We have a lot of work to do.

1354
01:03:44,467 --> 01:03:45,601
Hello, and welcome

1355
01:03:45,635 --> 01:03:48,604
to the National Podcast Awards ceremony.

1356
01:03:48,638 --> 01:03:50,339
Tonight, we get to see the faces

1357
01:03:50,373 --> 01:03:53,709
behind some of the most
fascinating voices in audio.

1358
01:03:53,743 --> 01:03:55,745
Entering now is Serena Shephard,

1359
01:03:55,778 --> 01:03:59,548
host of the immensely popular
podcast, Love's Listening.

1360
01:03:59,582 --> 01:04:02,151
Serena, you look stunning, as always.

1361
01:04:02,184 --> 01:04:04,587
Thank you so much.

1362
01:04:04,620 --> 01:04:06,322
You're up for Podcast of the Year.

1363
01:04:06,355 --> 01:04:07,657
How are you feeling?

1364
01:04:07,690 --> 01:04:10,126
Absolutely fabulous.

1365
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:12,395
It's such an honor.

1366
01:04:12,428 --> 01:04:13,763
And is this your date tonight?

1367
01:04:13,796 --> 01:04:15,097
Oh, yes.

1368
01:04:15,131 --> 01:04:17,667
This is Jack Whitman,

1369
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:21,103
the renowned journalist
from The Times Daily.

1370
01:04:21,137 --> 01:04:23,072
Isn't he fabulous?

1371
01:04:23,105 --> 01:04:24,140
Are you two together?

1372
01:04:24,173 --> 01:04:25,474
No, uh, we just came to the...

1373
01:04:25,508 --> 01:04:28,577
Yes!
- Event together.

1374
01:04:28,611 --> 01:04:31,180
Will you... I'm sorry, will
you excuse me for a minute?

1375
01:04:31,213 --> 01:04:33,015
Of course.

1376
01:04:36,419 --> 01:04:38,120
He's just a little camera shy.

1377
01:04:38,154 --> 01:04:41,691
-You understand.
-Of course.

1378
01:04:41,724 --> 01:04:43,693
Will you excuse me for a minute?

1379
01:04:43,726 --> 01:04:45,695
Yes, of course. Good luck tonight, Serena.

1380
01:04:45,728 --> 01:04:47,596
Thank you.

1381
01:04:49,699 --> 01:04:51,567
It looks like love is not only listening,

1382
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,203
it is speaking up
tonight on the red carpet.

1383
01:04:54,236 --> 01:04:56,339
Entering now...

1384
01:04:57,807 --> 01:05:00,176
Thank you.

1385
01:05:00,209 --> 01:05:01,377
Sorry.

1386
01:05:09,118 --> 01:05:12,355
Serena, I don't know what that was,

1387
01:05:12,388 --> 01:05:14,132
-but I don't appreciate it.
-I don't understand.

1388
01:05:14,156 --> 01:05:15,634
Most men would be
thrilled to be out with me.

1389
01:05:15,658 --> 01:05:17,626
I am not most men.

1390
01:05:17,660 --> 01:05:19,495
I feel like I have been more than patient

1391
01:05:19,528 --> 01:05:21,230
with this whole situation,

1392
01:05:21,263 --> 01:05:22,565
but I'm a journalist.

1393
01:05:22,598 --> 01:05:24,734
I am doing a story on you.

1394
01:05:24,767 --> 01:05:26,702
We are not dating each other.

1395
01:05:26,736 --> 01:05:29,772
And you know that, so what's going on?

1396
01:05:29,805 --> 01:05:31,540
I just...

1397
01:05:31,574 --> 01:05:33,409
I will walk out on this event,

1398
01:05:33,442 --> 01:05:36,145
and I will include it in my story.

1399
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,849
Wait!

1400
01:05:39,882 --> 01:05:43,552
I'm sorry, okay?

1401
01:05:43,586 --> 01:05:45,821
I am the voice of a romance brand,

1402
01:05:45,855 --> 01:05:49,458
and the press since the
breakup has been humiliating.

1403
01:05:49,492 --> 01:05:52,261
I was just trying to save face.

1404
01:05:52,294 --> 01:05:54,797
-Are you happy?
-I understand that,

1405
01:05:54,830 --> 01:05:57,099
and I appreciate your honesty,

1406
01:05:57,133 --> 01:05:59,268
but I am not to be used like some puppet

1407
01:05:59,301 --> 01:06:00,503
in front of the press.

1408
01:06:00,536 --> 01:06:02,805
I am the press, okay?

1409
01:06:02,838 --> 01:06:04,440
And I'm a professional.

1410
01:06:04,473 --> 01:06:07,510
This is business.

1411
01:06:07,543 --> 01:06:10,112
Well, you seemed awfully
comfortable with Abby

1412
01:06:10,146 --> 01:06:11,280
the other day.

1413
01:06:11,313 --> 01:06:13,349
Was that professional as well?

1414
01:06:13,382 --> 01:06:15,851
Maybe get off your high horse.

1415
01:06:15,885 --> 01:06:19,221
Okay, what do you want me to say?

1416
01:06:19,255 --> 01:06:20,790
You're such a catch.

1417
01:06:20,823 --> 01:06:22,491
I can't believe you're single.

1418
01:06:22,525 --> 01:06:25,294
What do you want me to say, Jack?

1419
01:06:25,327 --> 01:06:26,529
Know what?

1420
01:06:26,562 --> 01:06:29,465
You're the advice guru, you figure it out.

1421
01:06:52,254 --> 01:06:53,832
Have a good rest of your evening, Serena.

1422
01:06:53,856 --> 01:06:55,524
Whoa, whoa.

1423
01:07:02,331 --> 01:07:05,201
Everyone, calm down!

1424
01:07:05,234 --> 01:07:07,870
She's just my assistant.

1425
01:07:07,903 --> 01:07:09,405
Let's find out.

1426
01:07:09,438 --> 01:07:10,739
Hello, which show are you with?

1427
01:07:10,773 --> 01:07:12,908
Hi, I'm Abby Roig,

1428
01:07:12,942 --> 01:07:15,444
and I work on Love's Listening.

1429
01:07:15,478 --> 01:07:17,346
Oh, congratulations on the nomination.

1430
01:07:17,379 --> 01:07:18,280
Thank you so much.

1431
01:07:18,314 --> 01:07:21,350
I'm so excited to be here and nervous!

1432
01:07:21,383 --> 01:07:22,384
Can you tell?

1433
01:07:22,418 --> 01:07:23,252
You're doing great,

1434
01:07:23,285 --> 01:07:24,920
but can I ask you about your dress?

1435
01:07:24,954 --> 01:07:26,589
It is so unique. Who designed it?

1436
01:07:26,622 --> 01:07:29,625
Thank you. It's a Brynn Roig original,

1437
01:07:29,658 --> 01:07:33,262
and I'm so lucky to be
wearing one of her garments.

1438
01:07:33,295 --> 01:07:34,930
Look! Has pockets.

1439
01:07:34,964 --> 01:07:36,732
That is fabulous, and I have to admit,

1440
01:07:36,765 --> 01:07:39,201
I'm a bit jealous about the pockets.

1441
01:07:39,235 --> 01:07:40,436
Have a fun night, Abby.

1442
01:07:40,469 --> 01:07:42,238
Thank you so much. Have a great evening.

1443
01:07:42,271 --> 01:07:43,672
Thank you.

1444
01:07:43,706 --> 01:07:45,407
So many exciting things happening.

1445
01:07:56,318 --> 01:07:57,620
Serena, hi, you look...

1446
01:07:57,653 --> 01:07:59,855
Could you get me a soda water with lemon?

1447
01:07:59,889 --> 01:08:01,800
My voice is strained
from talking with the press

1448
01:08:01,824 --> 01:08:05,461
and I need to be able to
give my acceptance speech.

1449
01:08:19,942 --> 01:08:21,610
You look...

1450
01:08:21,644 --> 01:08:22,611
Wow.

1451
01:08:22,645 --> 01:08:24,747
I mean, really, wow.

1452
01:08:24,780 --> 01:08:26,415
Thank you.

1453
01:08:26,448 --> 01:08:29,552
I wish I could say the same about your tie.

1454
01:08:29,585 --> 01:08:31,420
It's terrible, isn't it?

1455
01:08:31,453 --> 01:08:33,956
Serena picked it out.

1456
01:08:33,989 --> 01:08:36,759
You know what?

1457
01:08:36,792 --> 01:08:37,793
Better.

1458
01:08:37,826 --> 01:08:39,662
Much better.

1459
01:08:41,997 --> 01:08:46,368
Do you think that we could talk?

1460
01:08:46,402 --> 01:08:49,772
I mean, not for the story, just...

1461
01:08:49,805 --> 01:08:53,309
It might be nice to catch up.

1462
01:08:53,342 --> 01:08:54,419
That sounded like "ketchup."

1463
01:08:54,443 --> 01:08:55,578
I don't want ketchup.

1464
01:08:55,611 --> 01:08:57,913
I just want to talk.

1465
01:08:57,947 --> 01:08:59,782
Are you okay?

1466
01:08:59,815 --> 01:09:02,284
Uh...

1467
01:09:02,318 --> 01:09:04,386
What I'm trying to say is...

1468
01:09:04,420 --> 01:09:07,022
I just want to be honest with you.

1469
01:09:07,056 --> 01:09:08,791
Would that be okay?

1470
01:09:08,824 --> 01:09:11,393
I want to be honest with you too, Jack.

1471
01:09:11,427 --> 01:09:13,562
There's something very
important that I have to...

1472
01:09:13,596 --> 01:09:15,297
Attention, everyone!

1473
01:09:15,331 --> 01:09:16,932
It is time to announce the winners

1474
01:09:16,966 --> 01:09:20,436
of this year's National Podcast Awards!

1475
01:09:20,469 --> 01:09:21,837
Yeah!

1476
01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:22,938
Come on now.

1477
01:09:22,972 --> 01:09:24,073
Are y'all ready?

1478
01:09:26,442 --> 01:09:27,476
Come on!

1479
01:09:27,509 --> 01:09:30,079
Let's give awards!

1480
01:09:30,112 --> 01:09:31,614
Yeah!

1481
01:09:35,084 --> 01:09:36,885
I have to take this to Serena.

1482
01:09:36,919 --> 01:09:38,954
-We'll catch up later?
-Yeah.

1483
01:09:49,064 --> 01:09:50,699
And now,

1484
01:09:50,733 --> 01:09:53,068
for the most prestigious
award of the night,

1485
01:09:53,102 --> 01:09:56,672
here are the nominees for
Best Podcast of the Year.

1486
01:10:00,109 --> 01:10:02,611
Yeah, yeah.

1487
01:10:02,645 --> 01:10:04,713
Running Wild with Chris McGowan

1488
01:10:04,747 --> 01:10:06,048
and Lauri Roggenkamp.

1489
01:10:11,987 --> 01:10:15,691
Good Times with Erin
Lann, hosted by Erin Lann.

1490
01:10:20,763 --> 01:10:21,997
Music and Boulders,

1491
01:10:22,031 --> 01:10:24,767
hosted by Austin and Hunter Barnes.

1492
01:10:29,938 --> 01:10:33,509
And Love is Listening,
hosted by Serena Shephard.

1493
01:10:46,422 --> 01:10:47,422
Love's Listening!

1494
01:11:06,108 --> 01:11:09,044
Wow, this is amazing.

1495
01:11:09,078 --> 01:11:11,980
Thank you to everyone
who's supported the podcast,

1496
01:11:12,014 --> 01:11:14,116
including my family and friends.

1497
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:15,851
And thank you to all the listeners

1498
01:11:15,884 --> 01:11:19,655
and everyone who's ever
taken a chance on love.

1499
01:11:27,463 --> 01:11:28,931
And, of course...

1500
01:11:30,766 --> 01:11:33,702
Always believe in yourself.

1501
01:11:35,137 --> 01:11:38,741
Even if no one else believes in you.

1502
01:11:38,774 --> 01:11:42,177
All you need to succeed...

1503
01:11:42,211 --> 01:11:43,979
is yourself.

1504
01:11:46,081 --> 01:11:48,217
Yes! Thank you!

1505
01:12:04,099 --> 01:12:06,902
Well, thank you, everyone,
for joining tonight's event!

1506
01:12:06,935 --> 01:12:09,138
Please, party! Party!

1507
01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:17,012
Abby, there you are.

1508
01:12:17,045 --> 01:12:17,880
There is so much to do.

1509
01:12:17,913 --> 01:12:19,848
Why don't you grab some champagne?

1510
01:12:19,882 --> 01:12:22,785
When will you promote me, Serena?

1511
01:12:22,818 --> 01:12:24,520
-What?
-You said that you were

1512
01:12:24,553 --> 01:12:26,655
going to write me in your
speech and you didn't.

1513
01:12:26,688 --> 01:12:29,091
You also said that you
were going to announce me

1514
01:12:29,124 --> 01:12:31,560
as a writer and producer once we win.

1515
01:12:31,593 --> 01:12:32,828
I need to know when.

1516
01:12:32,861 --> 01:12:34,530
Abby, we can discuss this later.

1517
01:12:34,563 --> 01:12:36,665
No, no, no, no, now.

1518
01:12:36,698 --> 01:12:39,768
I've been working for
you for years, in good faith,

1519
01:12:39,802 --> 01:12:41,570
with no boundaries, 24/7.

1520
01:12:41,603 --> 01:12:42,771
I write the entire show!

1521
01:12:42,805 --> 01:12:45,240
Shh!

1522
01:12:45,274 --> 01:12:47,709
I need to know now.

1523
01:12:47,743 --> 01:12:50,045
Abby, there is so much to do.

1524
01:12:50,078 --> 01:12:51,956
We're gonna need to update
all the promotion material.

1525
01:12:51,980 --> 01:12:55,651
Will those materials have my name on it?

1526
01:12:55,684 --> 01:12:59,188
Abby, you don't change
a winning recipe, okay?

1527
01:12:59,221 --> 01:13:00,856
My name is on the podcast.

1528
01:13:00,889 --> 01:13:04,159
It would muddle things
up to have equal credit.

1529
01:13:04,193 --> 01:13:06,528
I quit, Serena.

1530
01:13:06,562 --> 01:13:07,563
Okay.

1531
01:13:07,596 --> 01:13:09,798
I see, playing hardball.

1532
01:13:09,832 --> 01:13:12,167
I'll give you a raise.

1533
01:13:12,201 --> 01:13:14,203
You're being ridiculous.

1534
01:13:16,171 --> 01:13:17,739
Fine, go!

1535
01:13:17,773 --> 01:13:19,908
I'm not gonna let this ruin my night!

1536
01:13:19,942 --> 01:13:23,278
Jack is taking me dancing after this!

1537
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:33,055
Hey! There you are.

1538
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:37,759
Good luck on your article.

1539
01:13:37,793 --> 01:13:41,096
Wait, you're not sticking around?

1540
01:13:41,129 --> 01:13:43,665
No, I don't work on
Love's Listening anymore.

1541
01:13:43,699 --> 01:13:44,933
Wait a minute, what?

1542
01:13:44,967 --> 01:13:47,002
I quit.

1543
01:13:47,035 --> 01:13:49,571
It's been me the whole time, Jack.

1544
01:13:49,605 --> 01:13:52,708
It's been my words, my advice, my love.

1545
01:13:54,676 --> 01:13:57,746
Best of luck to get any
substance out of Serena,

1546
01:13:57,779 --> 01:13:59,748
and I wish you the best

1547
01:13:59,781 --> 01:14:02,117
with the queen of fake romance.

1548
01:14:03,352 --> 01:14:06,221
I hope you're very happy together.

1549
01:14:28,210 --> 01:14:29,711
Brynn?

1550
01:14:31,780 --> 01:14:35,784
I need Matt's midlife crisis audio gear.

1551
01:14:35,817 --> 01:14:37,953
We're making a show.

1552
01:14:41,757 --> 01:14:43,158
Abby!

1553
01:14:48,263 --> 01:14:50,032
Abby!

1554
01:15:03,245 --> 01:15:04,813
Hello?

1555
01:15:04,846 --> 01:15:08,216
Abby, where are you?!

1556
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:11,286
-Serena?
-I need you here

1557
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:12,888
twenty minutes ago!

1558
01:15:12,921 --> 01:15:15,257
Serena, I quit.

1559
01:15:16,892 --> 01:15:17,960
You meant that?

1560
01:15:17,993 --> 01:15:20,128
Yes, I'm not coming in.

1561
01:15:20,162 --> 01:15:21,863
No.

1562
01:15:21,897 --> 01:15:23,765
I don't accept that.

1563
01:15:23,799 --> 01:15:25,767
Well, you're going to have to.

1564
01:15:27,135 --> 01:15:28,704
Abby...

1565
01:15:28,737 --> 01:15:30,272
I'm sorry, okay?

1566
01:15:30,305 --> 01:15:32,908
I should have given you
credit in my acceptance speech.

1567
01:15:32,941 --> 01:15:35,243
I got carried away in the moment.

1568
01:15:35,277 --> 01:15:37,145
I should've promoted you sooner.

1569
01:15:37,179 --> 01:15:39,982
I just...

1570
01:15:40,015 --> 01:15:44,686
I felt insecure about not
writing my own content.

1571
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,888
I didn't want anyone to know.

1572
01:15:48,757 --> 01:15:50,892
I can't be dumped and have you leave me.

1573
01:15:50,926 --> 01:15:52,194
I just can't!

1574
01:15:52,227 --> 01:15:54,963
It's unacceptable.

1575
01:15:54,997 --> 01:15:56,865
Please come back.

1576
01:15:56,898 --> 01:15:58,867
I'll give you credit.

1577
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:00,235
A raise, even.

1578
01:16:00,268 --> 01:16:03,105
Just come back, okay?

1579
01:16:03,138 --> 01:16:07,242
Serena, that's all I
wanted to hear for years.

1580
01:16:07,275 --> 01:16:10,245
Thank you for your
apology, but I just can't.

1581
01:16:10,278 --> 01:16:13,215
I can't go back to work with you.

1582
01:16:13,248 --> 01:16:16,084
I don't know what I'm gonna do next, but...

1583
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:20,889
I need to bloom where I am planted now.

1584
01:16:24,292 --> 01:16:28,363
And I cannot wait for ideal conditions.

1585
01:16:28,397 --> 01:16:30,332
I hope you understand that.

1586
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:34,903
-I respect that.
-Thank you.

1587
01:16:34,936 --> 01:16:38,173
Could you just pick up my
coffee and dry cleaning first?

1588
01:16:56,058 --> 01:16:58,060
Airport, please.

1589
01:17:07,836 --> 01:17:09,504
Wow.

1590
01:17:09,538 --> 01:17:11,540
This is something.

1591
01:17:11,573 --> 01:17:13,041
It will be.

1592
01:17:13,075 --> 01:17:14,776
I just took all the measurements.

1593
01:17:14,810 --> 01:17:17,079
I just... I'm just clearing out.

1594
01:17:17,112 --> 01:17:18,113
Is that the stuff?

1595
01:17:18,146 --> 01:17:20,115
Some of it.

1596
01:17:20,148 --> 01:17:22,017
Great, thank you.

1597
01:17:23,385 --> 01:17:25,320
Mic!

1598
01:17:25,353 --> 01:17:26,855
Desk stand.

1599
01:17:26,888 --> 01:17:29,124
Matt will be by later
with a lot more stuff.

1600
01:17:29,157 --> 01:17:32,928
He's also gonna help
you soundproof this place.

1601
01:17:32,961 --> 01:17:34,262
That man is a keeper.

1602
01:17:34,296 --> 01:17:36,398
I think so too.

1603
01:17:36,431 --> 01:17:39,367
Thank you so much, both of you.

1604
01:17:42,971 --> 01:17:44,272
Abby, no.

1605
01:17:44,306 --> 01:17:46,508
Really? Brad's stuff?

1606
01:17:46,541 --> 01:17:49,411
-What is that?
-I'll take those.

1607
01:18:01,123 --> 01:18:03,258
Yay! You did it.

1608
01:18:03,291 --> 01:18:04,826
Good riddance.

1609
01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:06,561
What is that little paper?

1610
01:18:06,595 --> 01:18:09,231
Just from a fortune cookie.

1611
01:18:09,264 --> 01:18:12,501
The dinner Jack took me to.

1612
01:18:16,204 --> 01:18:19,274
Hm, um...

1613
01:18:19,307 --> 01:18:22,043
Have you seen the local news today

1614
01:18:22,077 --> 01:18:24,613
or been on social media?

1615
01:18:24,646 --> 01:18:26,815
No. Why?

1616
01:18:44,399 --> 01:18:46,401
I... I'm sorry, honey.

1617
01:18:46,434 --> 01:18:48,637
Don't let this put a damper
on your exciting day.

1618
01:18:48,670 --> 01:18:50,438
It won't.

1619
01:18:50,472 --> 01:18:52,550
No, like I just... I don't know,
I just thought that he was

1620
01:18:52,574 --> 01:18:55,577
a better judge of character than that.

1621
01:18:55,610 --> 01:18:58,446
I hope they're happy together.

1622
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:01,917
-Hm.
-I really do.

1623
01:19:01,950 --> 01:19:03,194
You know, for the first time ever

1624
01:19:03,218 --> 01:19:07,389
I feel like I'm finally focusing on myself.

1625
01:19:07,422 --> 01:19:10,425
I can't control anyone else.

1626
01:19:10,458 --> 01:19:12,427
Well, that's the spirit!

1627
01:19:29,444 --> 01:19:30,979
Hey.

1628
01:19:31,012 --> 01:19:32,647
Hey.

1629
01:19:32,681 --> 01:19:35,584
They washing windows or something?

1630
01:19:35,617 --> 01:19:38,553
No. Just wondering what
New York would look like

1631
01:19:38,587 --> 01:19:40,655
with palm trees.

1632
01:19:40,689 --> 01:19:43,391
So, are you gonna reach out to Jack,

1633
01:19:43,425 --> 01:19:45,193
let him know about your show release?

1634
01:19:45,227 --> 01:19:47,662
No, I don't want to get distracted now.

1635
01:19:47,696 --> 01:19:52,400
And I kind of feel embarrassed, actually.

1636
01:19:52,434 --> 01:19:54,402
Embarrassed? Why are you embarrassed?

1637
01:19:54,436 --> 01:19:56,338
He's the one who fell for Serena's lies.

1638
01:19:56,371 --> 01:19:58,373
Right, but I've been lying to him

1639
01:19:58,406 --> 01:20:00,508
since the beginning.

1640
01:20:00,542 --> 01:20:03,078
And I'm part of the reason why he believes

1641
01:20:03,111 --> 01:20:05,580
that she's so great, you know?

1642
01:20:05,614 --> 01:20:09,551
And, you know, I can't be mad at that.

1643
01:20:09,584 --> 01:20:12,387
I don't think it's the same thing.

1644
01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:16,157
Maybe it's not, but it's still dishonest.

1645
01:20:16,191 --> 01:20:18,560
And I know how important honesty is to him.

1646
01:20:18,593 --> 01:20:20,395
It's wonderful, Jack.

1647
01:20:20,428 --> 01:20:22,364
I'd say it's your best work yet.

1648
01:20:22,397 --> 01:20:25,133
Wait. Really?

1649
01:20:25,166 --> 01:20:28,270
It's not your usual prestige piece,

1650
01:20:28,303 --> 01:20:30,138
but you had a lot of heart in it.

1651
01:20:30,171 --> 01:20:32,107
You should be proud of it.

1652
01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:33,642
We're running it Sunday.

1653
01:20:33,675 --> 01:20:36,211
Wow, on Sunday.

1654
01:20:36,244 --> 01:20:38,980
On the front page.

1655
01:20:39,014 --> 01:20:41,082
My piece is going to be on the front page

1656
01:20:41,116 --> 01:20:42,150
of the Sunday edition?

1657
01:20:42,183 --> 01:20:44,252
It is.

1658
01:20:44,286 --> 01:20:46,288
Well, thank you, Diane.

1659
01:20:46,321 --> 01:20:48,723
Thank you for trusting in me.

1660
01:20:48,757 --> 01:20:50,091
Of course.

1661
01:20:50,125 --> 01:20:51,760
Such great work.

1662
01:20:51,793 --> 01:20:53,395
There is one more thing.

1663
01:20:53,428 --> 01:20:55,664
We have a senior
columnist position opening up

1664
01:20:55,697 --> 01:20:59,334
that we'd like to fill internally.

1665
01:20:59,367 --> 01:21:02,671
Wow, I mean, that would be awesome.

1666
01:21:02,704 --> 01:21:04,572
I don't know what to say.

1667
01:21:04,606 --> 01:21:07,275
At the Miami office.

1668
01:21:07,309 --> 01:21:08,452
I thought maybe you'd consider it

1669
01:21:08,476 --> 01:21:12,213
seeing that you're considering
new things these days.

1670
01:21:12,247 --> 01:21:14,482
I don't know if I can be that open.

1671
01:21:14,516 --> 01:21:17,485
I know, but you're looking
for something bigger.

1672
01:21:17,519 --> 01:21:20,255
Maybe a change of perspective.

1673
01:21:22,223 --> 01:21:24,659
Someplace with more palm trees.

1674
01:21:26,261 --> 01:21:28,697
And it also means that the whole profile

1675
01:21:28,730 --> 01:21:30,565
is built up on lies.

1676
01:21:30,598 --> 01:21:34,402
And that's a pretty
huge deal for a journalist,

1677
01:21:34,436 --> 01:21:36,271
if the paper finds out.

1678
01:21:36,304 --> 01:21:39,107
Mm, I hadn't thought about that.

1679
01:21:39,140 --> 01:21:41,710
Yeah, it's all so complicated.

1680
01:21:44,145 --> 01:21:47,615
I need some time to process, I think.

1681
01:21:47,649 --> 01:21:49,217
Okay.

1682
01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:52,187
Well, I'll be here for whatever you need.

1683
01:21:52,220 --> 01:21:53,788
Thank you, sister.

1684
01:21:53,822 --> 01:21:56,291
-I love you.
-I love you, too.

1685
01:21:58,493 --> 01:22:00,428
Change is hard.

1686
01:22:00,462 --> 01:22:02,630
And change can be scary.

1687
01:22:02,664 --> 01:22:04,499
Like, really scary.

1688
01:22:04,532 --> 01:22:06,334
But sometimes, the biggest rewards

1689
01:22:06,368 --> 01:22:08,603
come from facing your fears

1690
01:22:08,636 --> 01:22:10,839
and running right into the change,

1691
01:22:10,872 --> 01:22:12,674
heart first.

1692
01:22:12,707 --> 01:22:14,342
So that's what I'm doing now.

1693
01:22:14,376 --> 01:22:16,244
I'm running into the change.

1694
01:22:16,277 --> 01:22:17,779
And it's scary,

1695
01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:20,382
but I hope you come along with me.

1696
01:22:20,415 --> 01:22:21,649
So let's get into it.

1697
01:22:21,683 --> 01:22:22,550
I want to hear from you.

1698
01:22:22,584 --> 01:22:24,319
I want to know what you're changing.

1699
01:22:24,352 --> 01:22:26,855
Why are you afraid of change?

1700
01:22:26,888 --> 01:22:30,191
And how can I help you do it?

1701
01:22:30,225 --> 01:22:32,293
And let's face the fear together.

1702
01:22:32,327 --> 01:22:35,797
I'm Abby Roig, and this
is A New Perspective.

1703
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:38,099
And we'll be right back with the calls

1704
01:22:38,133 --> 01:22:40,602
after a short commercial break.

1705
01:22:42,537 --> 01:22:43,538
How did it sound?

1706
01:22:43,571 --> 01:22:44,839
-Sounds great.
-Okay, great.

1707
01:22:44,873 --> 01:22:46,241
No, it sounds great.

1708
01:22:46,274 --> 01:22:48,209
Audio quality is spotless.

1709
01:22:48,243 --> 01:22:49,677
No lag.

1710
01:22:49,711 --> 01:22:51,413
I think we're ready for live calls.

1711
01:22:51,446 --> 01:22:52,881
Thank you so much for doing this.

1712
01:22:52,914 --> 01:22:55,216
I really appreciate it, especially after,

1713
01:22:55,250 --> 01:22:56,384
you know, on the weekend.

1714
01:22:56,418 --> 01:22:57,452
No, don't worry about it.

1715
01:22:57,485 --> 01:23:00,522
Honestly, a lot of
podcasters record from home.

1716
01:23:00,555 --> 01:23:02,323
I'm excited to be on board.

1717
01:23:02,357 --> 01:23:03,691
Okay, let's be right back.

1718
01:23:03,725 --> 01:23:06,795
Cool. Um, let's just test the line.

1719
01:23:06,828 --> 01:23:08,863
All right, you hearing me okay?

1720
01:23:08,897 --> 01:23:10,465
-Mm-hm.
-All right.

1721
01:23:10,498 --> 01:23:12,133
And ready?

1722
01:23:12,167 --> 01:23:15,236
And we're back.

1723
01:23:16,771 --> 01:23:18,773
Congratulations to you, Bryce.

1724
01:23:18,807 --> 01:23:21,443
I know firsthand how scary it can be,

1725
01:23:21,476 --> 01:23:23,478
change of career,

1726
01:23:23,511 --> 01:23:24,889
but you should be proud of yourself

1727
01:23:24,913 --> 01:23:27,182
for taking the leap.

1728
01:23:34,722 --> 01:23:37,892
Thank you for sharing
your wins with me, Simon.

1729
01:23:37,926 --> 01:23:40,829
I know that it's a
beautiful thing to get a win,

1730
01:23:40,862 --> 01:23:42,764
and it's even more special

1731
01:23:42,797 --> 01:23:44,732
if you can share it with someone.

1732
01:23:44,766 --> 01:23:47,836
Best of luck, and thanks for listening.

1733
01:23:57,512 --> 01:23:59,881
Shh.

1734
01:23:59,914 --> 01:24:03,318
Okay, everyone, so I'm
hearing Kieran is telling me

1735
01:24:03,351 --> 01:24:06,254
that we have one last caller on the line.

1736
01:24:06,287 --> 01:24:07,589
Hi, caller.

1737
01:24:07,622 --> 01:24:09,824
Welcome to A New Perspective.

1738
01:24:09,858 --> 01:24:13,595
What are you scared
of, and how can we help?

1739
01:24:13,628 --> 01:24:15,763
Hi, Abby.

1740
01:24:18,299 --> 01:24:21,803
Can I get a name for you, caller?

1741
01:24:21,836 --> 01:24:24,572
This is Jack.

1742
01:24:24,606 --> 01:24:28,243
I was hoping you could
help me out with some advice.

1743
01:24:28,276 --> 01:24:29,644
Um...

1744
01:24:29,677 --> 01:24:31,813
Yes, Jack. Shoot.

1745
01:24:34,616 --> 01:24:37,452
What are you afraid of?

1746
01:24:37,485 --> 01:24:40,755
I'm afraid that I may have lost the shot

1747
01:24:40,788 --> 01:24:44,592
with someone really, truly special.

1748
01:24:44,626 --> 01:24:46,995
It was a huge mistake, and I left town

1749
01:24:47,028 --> 01:24:49,797
before I had the chance
to clear the air with her.

1750
01:24:51,733 --> 01:24:56,971
Well, that sounds like a
big miscommunication.

1751
01:24:57,005 --> 01:24:59,774
But if she's a special one,

1752
01:24:59,807 --> 01:25:02,510
she'll come clean

1753
01:25:02,544 --> 01:25:07,615
and she'll accept the
part of the situation also.

1754
01:25:07,649 --> 01:25:10,485
Honesty is so important.

1755
01:25:10,518 --> 01:25:14,722
I couldn't agree more.

1756
01:25:14,756 --> 01:25:17,859
The thing is, I'm back in town,

1757
01:25:17,892 --> 01:25:21,529
and I really want to see her.

1758
01:25:21,563 --> 01:25:25,867
Have I missed my chance?

1759
01:25:25,900 --> 01:25:27,769
I'm afraid I'll never get to tell her

1760
01:25:27,802 --> 01:25:30,738
how I feel in person.

1761
01:25:30,772 --> 01:25:34,776
And what is that that you want to tell her?

1762
01:25:34,809 --> 01:25:38,947
That she's managed to
turn this cynic into a romantic.

1763
01:25:42,050 --> 01:25:46,321
Well, Jack, this podcast is about...

1764
01:25:47,722 --> 01:25:49,757
facing your fears.

1765
01:25:52,927 --> 01:25:54,896
Why don't you take her

1766
01:25:54,929 --> 01:25:59,367
to the most romantic spot in the city

1767
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,869
and tell her how you feel?

1768
01:26:05,540 --> 01:26:06,908
Jack?

1769
01:26:08,943 --> 01:26:10,645
I'm on my way.

1770
01:26:13,414 --> 01:26:16,784
There's never a cab when
you need one in this city.

1771
01:26:16,818 --> 01:26:18,686
-Hello?
-Hi, Abby!

1772
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:19,954
Yes, this is Abby Roig.

1773
01:26:19,988 --> 01:26:20,955
Who's calling, please?

1774
01:26:20,989 --> 01:26:22,090
Sounds like a great idea.

1775
01:26:22,123 --> 01:26:23,458
On my way.

1776
01:26:23,491 --> 01:26:26,928
Yes, um, thank you so much.

1777
01:26:28,496 --> 01:26:30,865
Hello? This is Abby Roig.

1778
01:26:30,898 --> 01:26:32,734
Who's calling?

1779
01:26:38,139 --> 01:26:39,907
-Hello?
-Hello,

1780
01:26:39,941 --> 01:26:42,577
is this Abby Roig from A
New Perspective podcast?

1781
01:26:42,610 --> 01:26:44,078
Yes. Who's calling, please?

1782
01:26:44,112 --> 01:26:44,912
This is Michael Joseph

1783
01:26:44,946 --> 01:26:47,482
from the Limelight Podcast Network.

1784
01:26:47,515 --> 01:26:49,050
Wow, yes, I love Limelight.

1785
01:26:49,083 --> 01:26:50,728
I'm glad to hear that. I was calling to see

1786
01:26:50,752 --> 01:26:52,820
if you'd be open to discuss
hosting your podcast

1787
01:26:52,854 --> 01:26:55,456
under the Limelight umbrella?

1788
01:27:01,629 --> 01:27:04,098
This humidity...

1789
01:27:04,132 --> 01:27:06,734
It's kind of our thing.

1790
01:27:06,768 --> 01:27:08,569
That article...

1791
01:27:08,603 --> 01:27:10,605
It was so beautiful, Jack.

1792
01:27:10,638 --> 01:27:13,875
So honest, so real.

1793
01:27:13,908 --> 01:27:17,578
I'm glad you liked it.

1794
01:27:17,612 --> 01:27:20,481
I'm so sorry that I lied to you.

1795
01:27:20,515 --> 01:27:21,983
I felt so bad about it.

1796
01:27:22,016 --> 01:27:24,952
I never meant for it to get out of hand.

1797
01:27:24,986 --> 01:27:28,156
But now my phone is lighting
up with all these networks

1798
01:27:28,189 --> 01:27:31,659
that they're interested in
my show because of you,

1799
01:27:31,693 --> 01:27:33,594
thanks to you.

1800
01:27:34,996 --> 01:27:39,901
You... you inspire me to have this confidence

1801
01:27:39,934 --> 01:27:41,836
to bloom where I was planted.

1802
01:27:41,869 --> 01:27:46,007
You've earned every bit
of success yourself, Abby.

1803
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,109
And you were only doing your job.

1804
01:27:48,142 --> 01:27:50,945
From day one, you've only ever been

1805
01:27:50,978 --> 01:27:52,847
your authentic self to me.

1806
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,918
I'm sorry I didn't realize
that from the beginning.

1807
01:27:56,951 --> 01:27:59,087
I was scared.

1808
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,757
And I didn't want to admit that to myself.

1809
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:04,468
I should've told you I had feelings for you

1810
01:28:04,492 --> 01:28:05,626
the second that I knew.

1811
01:28:05,660 --> 01:28:09,163
I should've told you at dinner.

1812
01:28:09,197 --> 01:28:10,932
At dinner?

1813
01:28:18,606 --> 01:28:20,141
It's you.

1814
01:28:20,174 --> 01:28:22,910
The real you.

1815
01:28:22,944 --> 01:28:25,012
It's you, too.